QML Placces design discussion

[Mark]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Aurélien Gâteau <agateau at kde.org> wrote:
> Le Tuesday 12 February 2013 23:55:39 Mark a écrit :
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Shaun Reich <sreich at kde.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin at kde.org>
> wrote:
>> >> Technical implementation aside: I think that makes absolute sense:
>> >> * one vd by default
>> >> * do not show pager for one vd
>> >> * show pager if user uses more vds
>> >
>> > i agree that showing the pager only for on vd is a bit weird. but the
>> > issue
>> > i'd like to address is that if you make the pager invisible and not taking
>> > up space, then when the user is browsing the widget explorer seeing what
>> > he
>> > can add to the panel, he tries to add the pager widget, wondering what
>> > that
>> > does. but no feedback is given for adding it, and so they add it 10 more
>> > times.
>> >
>> > as mentioned in the rb, i've personally witnessed this happen, and this
>> > seems to confuse people, because they have no idea they need to go into
>> > system settings and set the virtual desktop to > 1. if it said so/told
>> > them, i imagine that would be fine as well.
>> >
>> >> Focus on technical implementation: I don't care much and cannot judge it,
>> >> but
>> >> my personal vote would be to just drop the pager from the default setup.
>> >
>> > I agree on this, since I don't see virtual desktops being used by people
>> > other than power users. After all, we've got activities and we should be
>> > focusing/refining on that for the majority of our users.
>> >
>> > i think that if we remove it from the default setup, we don't have to
>> > worry
>> > about hiding the pager contents in the 1 vd scenario at all.
>>
>> Why are you folks discarding my usecase completely? Not even one
>> comment on it. My usecase is very valid, i'm having it right now as i
>> type this mail.
>
> What Shaun and Martin suggest would actually fix your problem. If the pager is
> not in the default setup, then there is no need to hide it when only one vd is
> there, so you would be able to add the widget to your panel and see your
> windows.

That would not fix it at all.
It would still show up empty with just one VD if i choose to add it.

Note: big +1 for removing it from the default setup, but if it's there
it should show "something".