Looking around and thinking ahead

Eike Hein hein at kde.org
Thu Dec 12 14:41:05 UTC 2013


On Thursday 12 December 2013 15:29:00 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> so i don’t think it makes much sense to toss N of them in a ring and discuss
> relative merits.

Ah yup, and that's the sort of reply I expected from this mailing
list, which is why I wasn't going to do so until I was prodded.

Plasma is bundles of fun and joy sometimes.
 

> as an aside: this really makes zero sense to have. it requires plasmoid A to
> work with plasmoid B in a way that makes lots of assumptions.

"Add to Desktop" and "Add to Panel" are present in Kickoff as well,
and hence are present there because they're expected to be there in
a replacement.

"Add to Task Manager" is backed by an undesirable fixed-function
implementation indeed, although it improves things for the user in
a real way, which made it desirable to implement for now.

Discussion in #plasma between Marco, me and others was about ideas
like a data engine for launchers that various things could source
from; SLC didn't come up. If you feel like your SLC technology
could solve this problem more nicely for us, I'd be interested to
hear the pitch for how, though!


> drag and drop + SLC should replace these misfeatures entirely.

I'm looking forward to you making me excited to work with you on
adopting your approach (this mail did not; I think you understand
humans well enough to reason about why).


> > "let's have a little smartphone VM in a corner of the screen"
> 
> given when kickoff was designed (and by whom/where), this is a folk
> etymology of the kickoff UI which bears no resemblance to what actually
> transpired.

I was around during those times, so I'm aware. However, I felt it's
an interesting analogy to highlight just why Kickoff never really
worked all that well :).


Cheers,
Eike


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