naming the next major release

Rick Stockton rickstockton at reno-computerhelp.com
Wed Aug 21 21:39:36 UTC 2013


I wonder: If KDE will not define and Release an internally consistent 
'SC' anymore, then how should packagers differentiate between "Minor 
Version" and "Point Release Updates" for their end users?
I understand the use of an RPM or Deb name such as "Task-KDE-Plasma" 
used as a collection, defining multiple packages as a combined unit -- 
but if we off-load the definition of such packages to the Distros, I'm 
afraid that we might see a huge increase in Distro-specific Bugs - and 
they'd be bugs which we can't reproduce, because we've (possibly) made 
the definition of KDE contents too flexible, and don't have all of those 
configurations available to run ourselves.

IMO, it would be a Very-Bad-Thing(tm) if our first response to many bugs 
becomes a request to "clean up their package selection, and see if the 
probelm is still reproducible". A number of such requests to "elinimate 
weirdness", from bug triage persons, would basically be like the 
definition of an SC anyway. (But after the fact, and all of the 
misdirected packaging work, and aggravation of end Users). If we 
consider it a Good-Thing(tm) to avoid defining co-requisite KDE 
libraries at Release Time, does our own Release process (and that of all 
our "K" Softwares) have the time and facilities to test a large number 
of possible combinations? Or, is my worry resolved by 
already-in-progress refactoring?

BTW, as a (mostly) end-User, I'm fine (and prefer) Plasma-2. But KDE 
without "base" SC Releases will tend to fragment Distro content 
selection, right?

On 08/21/2013 12:35 PM, Martin Graesslin wrote:

<<big snip, not relevant to my questions>>
> On Wednesday 21 August 2013 15:58:03 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
>> 2013/8/21 Martin Graesslin <mgraesslin at kde.org>:
>>> On Wednesday 21 August 2013 13:52:06 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
>>>> 2013/8/21 Martin Graesslin <mgraesslin at kde.org>:
>>>>> On Wednesday 21 August 2013 11:29:52 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
>>>>> this might change. Consider Razor/LXDE joining the KDE umbrella. What
>>>>> then?
>>>>>  From one day to another it would be obvious that using "the KDE
>>>>> desktop"
>>>>> is
>>>>> not working any more.
<< big snip of stuff not relevant to my questions >>
> Who said there will be a software compilation in the KF 5 world or 
> that the Plasma Workspaces will be part of such a maybe existing 
> software compilation? Please note that this has not yet been 
> discussed, but I know that a few people in the Plasma team (me 
> included) would favor to not have the SC anymore. The reasons you 
> mention are a part of it. In fact the whole discussion highlights it. 
> We would not need to think about a version number if Plasma would be 
> part of the software compilation. Cheers Martin 

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