Review Request 110122: Patch to handle notifications with low timeouts masking earlier important notifications.

James Pike kdebugs at chilon.net
Fri Apr 26 23:01:13 UTC 2013



> On April 25, 2013, 2:02 p.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > plasma/generic/applets/notifications/contents/ui/LastNotificationPopup.qml, line 52
> > <http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/110122/diff/1/?file=140373#file140373line52>
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> >     no minimum is set here as there was in the prior code. there should probably be some sensible minimum applied.
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> James Pike wrote:
>     The minimum is set on line 45.
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> James Pike wrote:
>     I did however remove the 60 second maximum as I believe this is too low, many people in my office have expressed a desire for higher notification timeouts. I mark notifications from my boss with a timeout of several thousand seconds to ensure I never miss them. Else he'll get angry.
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> James Pike wrote:
>     Please feel free to re-instate the 60 second maximum though, it just means I'll never be able to use KDE and have a non-angry boss at the same time :P
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> Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
>     If an information is so important that you must not miss it, it should not be displayed as a notification (or at least not only). Notifications should only be used for information that may be interesting, but not critical.
>     If you have to set timeouts to basically "forever", that's a sign that you're using a notification for the wrong purpose.
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> James Pike wrote:
>     And sure, I have audio notifications on top. Yet I still think, it's not up to you to decide purpose, to decide the notification period. To decide on behalf of everyone else. I didn't think that was the KDE philosophy at all, I thought the philosophy was on user configuration. So IMO to decide on a blanket 60 second maximum for everyone and enforce that is wrong.
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>     Do you really wanna be the kinda person who tells an entire community about what purpose "should be"?

Essentially I'm asking, why do you feel you have a mandate, as a WM, to override hints given by user applications? Why do you assume a user application cannot have a timeout above 60 seconds? Way too authoritarian for my likings...


- James


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On April 25, 2013, 1:58 p.m., James Pike wrote:
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> (Updated April 25, 2013, 1:58 p.m.)
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> Review request for Plasma.
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> Description
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> Currently the timeout of the last notification to arrive is used as a basis for hiding the notification display. This means that a notification with a high timeout can get hidden by a new notification arriving with a much lower timeout.
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> This patch simply changes the behaviour to, when expiring a timer, go back through the stack and display the most recent unexpired timer. If all timers are expired the notification is closed as before.
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> This addresses bug 318295.
>     http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318295
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> Diffs
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>   plasma/generic/applets/notifications/contents/ui/LastNotificationPopup.qml 2fa1b11 
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> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/110122/diff/
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> Testing
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> Test script in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318295
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> Thanks,
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> James Pike
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