Review Request: TaskManager: TaskAction changes from IconTasks

Craig Drummond craig at kde.org
Wed Nov 2 07:53:09 UTC 2011



> On Nov. 1, 2011, 2:05 p.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > libs/taskmanager/taskactions.cpp, line 384
> > <http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103004/diff/1/?file=39919#file39919line384>
> >
> >     we have a name, it should be used. it hardly matters what the eventual Launcher is called. shortening it with the removal of "It Is" is probably alright ("computer application english" :)
> 
> Craig Drummond wrote:
>     "Show A Launcher for Systemsettings When It is Not Running" is a *very* long menu item. What advantage does adding the name here give? The user already right-clicked on the taskbar entry - so they know what the item is. Placing its name here just adds extra noise. In fact I'd actually prefer just "Pin To Taskbar" and "Unpin From Taskbar"
> 
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>     a) it tells the user what is (likely) to happen with the launcher; as it doesn't actually relate directly to the window itself, this is useful information .. particularly as many times you can't even see the name of the application in the task widget button, so have nothing to really reference visually.
>     
>     b) "pin" has got to be one of the worst bits of new jargon that has come with docks. in my testing with run-of-the-mill users not used to docks they tend to fail with complete reliability at explaining what it will do
>     
>     it could be shortened to just "Show a launcher for <name>" though?

I still disagree with adding the name. We dont have "Close <name>", "Minimise <name>". So why is "Show A Launcher" any different?


> On Nov. 1, 2011, 2:05 p.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > libs/taskmanager/taskactions.cpp, lines 508-510
> > <http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103004/diff/1/?file=39919#file39919line508>
> >
> >     there's a line between "simplifiying" and "making it useless in too many cases" that this crosses imho. this would have me reaching for the window titlebar in too many cases.
> >     
> >     i would be in favour of renaming "Advanced" (a word we are trying to get away from) with something like "More actions"
> 
> Craig Drummond wrote:
>     hehe! knew this would get some reactions. Its only an option anyway. Perhaps it would be better if the user could supply a mask of items they did *not* want in the basic menu? Then it's up to the taskbar applet to decide what to show?
> 
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>     sounds like a great recipe for inconsistency, poor choices and the creation of new user-facing options. i'd really like to avoid it. coming to a good compromise situation that works well enough for everyone should be possible.

In the next diff I've removed the 'simple' option. It needs more thought. Plus, it might be better to just re-think the context menu so that there is no need for a 'simple' mode.


- Craig


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On Oct. 31, 2011, 8:40 p.m., Craig Drummond wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 31, 2011, 8:40 p.m.)
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> Review request for Plasma.
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> Description
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> 1. Add NewInstance action to launch a new instance of an application.
> 2. Move toggle launcher action out of advanced menu.
> 3. Don't show application name in 'Show A Launcher' action, as might not know the real name at this time (e.g. no desktop file read).
> 4. Add application actions, to be shown at the top of the right-click menu. IconTasks uses this to show recent docuents, dock manager menu items, and unity items.
> 5. A ToolTipMenu class is created, so that tooltips may be give for menu items. This is so that IconTasks can display the full path of a documents in the recent documents menu.
> 6. Add option to have only basic window controls in menu.
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> Diffs
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>   libs/taskmanager/taskactions.h 2b5a641 
>   libs/taskmanager/taskactions.cpp 0e6ba8e 
>   libs/taskmanager/taskactions_p.h 913966c 
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> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103004/diff/diff
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> Testing
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> Thanks,
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> Craig Drummond
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