the next step on the desktop

[Martin Gräßlin]

On Monday 31 January 2011 16:11:45 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Monday 31 January 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > ----- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -----
> > 
> > > A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 13:00:50 Marco Martin você escreveu:
> > > > provocation: remove the maximize button by default? ;) (as the
> > > > netbook doesn't have minimize)
> > > 
> > > will talk to mgrslin this afternoon but somthing like a optimal size
> > > buton   instead of max... if you clik it again it goes max.... now the
> > > apps would need   to provide info to kwin about it... this comes in
> > > line with the other crazy   ideas we benn cooking. worth trying IMO
> > 
> > at UDS I talked with some desktop experience devs about that. What we
> > came up with is abusing the (unused) maximum size hint and making the
> > maximize button tri-state. First click optimized, second click
> > maximized, third click back to normal. As Ubuntu is also interested
> > there's the chance of
> 
> but if the max hint is abused and the app ets one smaller than the screen,
> wouldn't make impossible to actually really maximize it?
max hint is really not used and maximized is a special state, so that should 
not matter
> btw the only yhing i'm not convince is having a tristate button (and adding
> another button is even more no go)
But changing the semantics of Maximized button depending on whether the app is 
modern or not is also a no go. Maybe adding a new button by default and 
dropping the maximized button by default. We still have maximize on top screen 
edge...
> 
> > getting some kind of standard (but honestly I doubt that gnome would be
> > collaborative in any way if it involves both kde and canonical).
> 
> eh.
> *cough* statusNotifierItem *cough* ;)
> 
> > From kwin point of view the most difficult part is to get it into the
> > decoration API without breaking BC. Though there are some things which
> > might need a break anyway.
> > 
> > From application point of view the most difficult part is changing all
> > apps. We can do that for our apps, but what about firefox and co?
> 
> those would still continue to maximize as they did?
> 
> Cheers,
> Marco Martin
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