the next step on the desktop

[Marco Martin]

On Monday 31 January 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -----
> 
> > A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 13:00:50 Marco Martin você escreveu:
> > > provocation: remove the maximize button by default? ;) (as the netbook
> > > doesn't have minimize)
> > 
> > will talk to mgrslin this afternoon but somthing like a optimal size
> > buton   instead of max... if you clik it again it goes max.... now the
> > apps would need   to provide info to kwin about it... this comes in line
> > with the other crazy   ideas we benn cooking. worth trying IMO
> 
> at UDS I talked with some desktop experience devs about that. What we came
> up with is abusing the (unused) maximum size hint and making the maximize
> button tri-state. First click optimized, second click maximized, third
> click back to normal. As Ubuntu is also interested there's the chance of

but if the max hint is abused and the app ets one smaller than the screen, 
wouldn't make impossible to actually really maximize it?
btw the only yhing i'm not convince is having a tristate button (and adding 
another button is even more no go)

> getting some kind of standard (but honestly I doubt that gnome would be
> collaborative in any way if it involves both kde and canonical).

eh.
*cough* statusNotifierItem *cough* ;)

> From kwin point of view the most difficult part is to get it into the
> decoration API without breaking BC. Though there are some things which
> might need a break anyway.
>
> From application point of view the most difficult part is changing all
> apps. We can do that for our apps, but what about firefox and co?

those would still continue to maximize as they did?

Cheers,
Marco Martin