Breadcrumbs in Kickoff

[Xavier Sythe]

Actually, the breadcrumbs don't really need to be removed.
I merely see the need to reinstate the back button.
"I personally do not see any need for the back button any more."

It's mostly a user experience perspective.

It's a simple fact that it requires less mouse movement, hence, less time,
to click the back button, then it does to move your mouse to the top of the
menu, and use the breadcrumbs.  Why?  Because the back button extends all
the way down the length of the menu.  Instead of having to move your mouse
to the top of the menu, then to the left, you can simply move it to the
left and click the button.


"The
breadcrumbs add high value to Kickoff. It makes navigation in a folder like
structure like the application menu more convenient and much more consistant
with other parts of KDE applications, e.g. Dolphin's..."

Just like in Dolphin, this menu style would feature both breadcrumb
navigation, and a back button.

Would you support removing the back button from Dolphin, in favour of just
breadcrumbs?
I doubt that anyone would support that.

I've chatted briefly with the KDE Usability Team, and they actually seemed
to agree with me.

Well some users might stick to the breadcrumb navigation, the majority of
users from previous versions of KDE are accustomed to the back button, and
appreciate its use, both in Kickoff as well as in Dolphin.  Including both
types of navigation will ensure that nobody complains, and presumably, lead
to a better overall user experience.

Thanks,
Xavier Sythe




On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin at kde.org> wrote:

> On Thursday 08 December 2011 16:01:33 Xavier Sythe wrote:
> > Nearly two months ago, I contacted him, and asked him to reverse the
> > controversial commit.
> > He has yet to reply.
> Please understand that not each developer has the time to answer personal
> requests. You state yourself that it is controversial. Just imagine each
> user
> disliking the feature sending a mail to Kevin. That just doesn't scale.
>
> Asking to revert the feature is to be honest non-constructive criticism.
> Like
> all other decisions on the default user interface they are done with care.
> The
> breadcrumbs add high value to Kickoff. It makes navigation in a folder like
> structure like the application menu more convenient and much more
> consistant
> with other parts of KDE applications, e.g. Dolphin's breadcrumb navigation.
>
> Just because you (and others) dislike the new feature it does not justify
> to
> revert the commit. There are also users liking the feature, so how should
> we
> suit both groups? Now please don't state that we need an option for that.
> This
> is not possible as the code gets too complex and too difficult to maintain.
> >
> > When I asked the #KDE IRC channel about this, I was told to contact the
> > members of this mailing list, to see if I could get the commit reversed.
> Reverting the commit is clearly not an option. But what would you say about
> improving the breadcrumbs in Kickoff? Getting them into a state that you
> want
> to use them and not the out-of-place back button?
>
> Have a look at my recent blog post [1] about the work on Kickoff for 4.9.
> It
> is easy to give this version a try, it installs alongside the existing
> Kickoff. I personally do not see any need for the back button any more.
>
> Kind Regards
> Martin Gräßlin
>
> New Kickoff Maintainer after branch merged into master
>
> [1] http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/12/experience-from-porting-
> kickoff-to-qml/<http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/12/experience-from-porting-%0Akickoff-to-qml/>
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