Subject: Re: plasmate alpha1 release

[Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)]

>
> ---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
> From: Yuen Hoe Lim <yuenhoe86 at gmail.com>
> To: plasma-devel at kde.org
> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:12:03 +0800
> Subject: Re: plasmate alpha1 release
> Hi guys,
>
> would it be reasonable to try for an alpha release with:
>>
>> * tagging on the 8th
>> * release on the 10th, assuming the tagging goes well
>>
>
Good for me too, so we can start recieving feedbacks from the users :)

>
> Sounds awesome! I'm not sure what kind of quality would be expected of
> alpha software though :P
>
Some of my questons/concerns about the present state of PlasMate are as
> follows:
>
>    - AFAIK we are only (more or less) good to go for Plasmoids. I think
>    runners et al don't quite work. Do we "hide" those options for now? :P
>
> Hiding its not a good idea, i did it this summer and they told me to not do
that; btw i agree with your idea to do something for that :)
We need to add a dataEngine and runner templates in Javascript, as well a
runner template written in ruby but, up to now, i didn't find any example in
order to write good templates fot that. Hints ?
And theme support is still unavailable, in this current state.

>
>    - Likewise we currently have some UI stubs for unimplemented features
>    (eg. Publish to GHNS), "hide" those too?
>    - I haven't really been testing the timeline, and now that I tried it,
>    it doesn't seem to work right =( Am I not using it correctly? Or is it
>    bugged? Diego could you check? :P
>
> If you would be more detailed, I'll be glad to help you :)

>
>    - I can't seem to create a configuration dialog for my (Python)
>    plasmoid in PlasMate. I used to override showConfigurationInterface(), but
>    that doesn't seem to work while using PlasMate. As long as I set
>    hasConfigurationInterface to True and have the "User Interface" folder
>    empty, the plasmoid always crashes when I attempt to view the configuration
>    interface (right-click > settings). IIRC you're supposed to put
>    QtDesigner-generated ui files in "User Interface", if so, does it make sense
>    to release now when there's no QtDesigner integration? Or we just leave the
>    configuration interface to "future work"?
>    - Additional, non-urgent point following from the last: crashing the
>    plasmoid crashes PlasMate. This doesn't seem right, but I've no idea how to
>    fix it at this point.
>
> What do you all think? If we could solve/get around these then for my part
> I think we're good :)
>

Agree.
Furthermore, IMO, we should make PlasMate project-centric, for a couple of
reasons:

*regardless the type of project started/opened, plasmate now loads the last
layout saved ( moreover, the layout is not resetted when changing project in
the same plasmate session ). Therefore, if we were developing a plasmoid
with the previewer visible, and then we change to a dataengine project to
fix a bug ( or if we start plasmate and open a dataengine project, when the
last project developed was a plasmoid with the previewer on ), the user will
see the previewer even if there is no reason on showing a preview for a
dataengine;

*for each project, we could save the last modified file, and show it the
next time the project will be opened again;


>
>> we should have a release plan from that point forward as well. how about:
>>
>> * a release every month, around the 10th of the month
>> * if changes warrant it and there is the manpower for it, interim releases
>> * aim for first betas in may, this would also include a feature freeze
>> * aim to move it into extragear/sdk/ and release a 0.1 release in tandem
>> with
>> KDE SC 4.5
>>
>
> Sounds good to me, although with only 2-3 devs I'm not sure how many
> changes we'll be able to push each month.
>
> ----
> Jason "moofang" Lim Yuen Hoe
> http://yuenhoe.co.cc/
>
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