Ayatana notifications for Plasma

Aaron J. Seigo aseigo at kde.org
Wed Sep 23 20:50:02 CEST 2009

On September 23, 2009, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:

> > before this gets carried forward into a big thread on this list, it has
> > been made very clear that Canonical is intent on following through on
> > these ideas as they are. it  is an insular project without outside
> > participation, which is something they are perfectly free to engage in
> > and i fully support their right to do so.
> I try to reach out with this mail. If we were not looking for outside
> participation, you would not find me regularly trying to upstream changes.

sending patches and saying "hey, this is what we're doing" when there is no 
intention of modification of the design or harmonizing it with the work of 
those you are sending the patches to is "only" notification of your work 
(excuse the pun ;). that is more than some do, and i appreciate that.

it is not, however, an invitation to the outside to participate on working on 
the design your patches espouse. (where "your" refers to Ayatana, not you 
personally :) that is a completely fair and reasonable thing for Ayatana to 
do, but it does make Ayatana insular and closed to true outside participation.

by contrast, the design of Plasma itself has been formed and influenced by a 
large number of people, almost all of whom have self-selected and have entered 
into the "core" of the project simply through their efforts rather than my 
express permission.

on the matter of notifications, we have a fundamental difference in design and 
expectations and simply showing each other our code isn't going to change 

Aaron J. Seigo
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