Review Request: Make folderview follow some guidelines

[Steven]

2008/12/14 Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org>

> On Sunday 14 December 2008, Fredrik Höglund wrote:
> > On Sunday 14 December 2008 17:09, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote:
> > > On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:34:22 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> > > > Hey!
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Fredrik Höglund <fredrik at kde.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > The warning that the desktop folder will be created when the user
> > > > > selects "Show Desktop folder" in the config dialog was carefully
> > > > > worked out in coordination with our usability experts, so I thank
> you
> > > > > for not removing it.
> > > >
> > > > That's why we are discussing this here and didnt commit
> > > > anything...from aseigo's point of view it shouldnt never create
> > > > automatically the folder thus making the warning useless.
> > >
> > > Because he doesn't want to promote the use of the Desktop folder?
> > > Personally, I agree and strongly dislike the use of the Desktop folder,
> > > but it is still part of the xdg folder spec isnt' it?  I think it is a
> > > better idea to actively support it than allow users to configure it
>
> er,... that's what we do: if the $DESKTOP path exists, as per xdg bullshit
> spec compliance, we respect it. if we're dealing with an OS with a
> forebrain
> then we respect that and don't force the $DESKTOP brain damage upon that
> poor
> user.
>
> > While slightly off-topic in the discussion, I think it's important that
> > when we want to change cross desktop standards that we do this in
> > collaboration with the other desktops,
>
> yes, this needs to be taken to xdg.
>
> > and don't unilaterally start
> > ignoring standards we've helped create, but now decided that we don't
> like
> > anymore.
>
> honestly, i'm not sure what the provenane of that spec is. fd.o is
> fundamentally BROKEN in this manner, but i do know that i never supported
> that
> craptastic spec.
>
> > If we don't do that then we end up creating problems for users and ISV's
> > alike.
> >
> > An example of such a problem in this case is that Firefox saves all
> > downloaded files in the desktop folder by default. If we deny users
> access
> > to it, then they won't be able to find those files.
>
> which belong in Downloads, not Desktop. poluting that folder with anything
> that isn't *desktop* oriented is so amazingly stupid that i sometimes
> wonder
> when software developers stopped thinking and just gave themselves up to
> punching in lines of code.
>
> which is to say we need to communicate, albeit more politely ;) , to the
> Firefox developers that they need to be putting their downloads elsewhere.
>

The problem is, it isn't just Firefox, its lots of programs. Until the
majority of programs use the Downloads directory, as they should, there has
to be a way to make all downloads system wide go to the Downloads directory,
unless specified to go elsewhere. This would be a kludge, but might be
necessary.

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