plasma-mid (Mobile Internet Device)

Chani chanika at gmail.com
Tue Aug 26 21:17:28 CEST 2008


On 8/26/08, Matthias Welwarsky <matze at welwarsky.de> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 26. August 2008, Chani wrote:
>
> > On 8/25/08, Benjamin Kleiner <bizzl.greekdog at web.de> wrote:
>  > > Am Montag 25. August 2008 21:54:53 schrieb Matthias Welwarsky:
>  > > > Am Montag 25 August 2008 17:50 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
>  > > > > these icons will be big, shiny and happy. i'd also like to offer a
>  > > > > hover
>  > > > >
>  > > > > based interface for them, so you can press, hold briefly, move,
>  > > > > release
>  > > > >
>  > > > > and trigger a non-launch action (such as colour in the "mark as
>  > > > >
>  > > > > favourite" star, or maybe things like "hide entry"?)
>  > > >
>  > > > gestures are nice but not easily discoverable. maybe just press+hold
>  > > > and
>  > > >
>  > > > then offer some context specific activities in a (shrug) menu-thingy?
>  > >
>  > > What about a circular menu, similar to kommando or the circular
>  > > application menu for gnome?
>  > >
>  > > Okay, that would still be a menu, but I think this would be easily
>  > > accessible with the thumb.
>  >
>  > what about corner actions like in dolphin? or would that suck for
>  > thumbs? ...ohh. those normally show up on hover, and touchscreens
>  > don't really have hover....
>  > aaron,were you suggesting they show up on mousedown and then i can
>  > drag my pointer to one of the corner icons to select it? huh.
>  > interesting.
>
>
> I think corner actions are not a good response to a press+hold gesture. Your
>  fingers are where you pressed the object. The GUI response to that should be
>  near your fingers as well.

corners of the icon, not corners of the screen

>
>  There is also a small (maybe neglegible) problem with most (resistive)
>  touchscreens: they tend to be nonlinear near the edges, it's difficult to
>  have precise coordinates there. It's not usually a problem if active elements
>  are big enough. It's just that this is somewhat diametrical to desktop GUI
>  design habits, where we tend to have small but important elements to control
>  e.g. the size of an application window (ok, maybe not a good example), or the
>  button to hide kicker in KDE 3.x

yes, fitts law doesn't really work on these things.

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