[Panel-devel] [PATCH] kickoff

[Robert Knight]

> - selects the tab on mouse however, with a small delay

Okay.  The tab selection on hover is one aspect of the original design
which I felt uncomfortable with, although the addition of a small
delay might solve that.  Once kdebase finishes building I'll test it.

> i think that's a detail that users will hardly care about. this isn't a
> scientific classification system ;)

The important thing is that it is at the top of the "My Computer" tab
so it can be easily found.

> getting rid of the first header and combining the first two sections made a
> lot more visual sense.

Okay, that makes sense.

On 11/10/2007, Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org> wrote:
> On Thursday 11 October 2007, Robert Knight wrote:
> > > what do you think about moving System Settings into Places?
> >
> > It isn't a place as such, but a tool.
>
> i think that's a detail that users will hardly care about. this isn't a
> scientific classification system ;)
>
> > In the KDE 3 version, System
> > Settings (or the distribution's own equivalent) is listed under an
> > "Applications" category.
>
> i considered giving it it's own heading, but it looked unecessary with:
>
>   HEADER
>      Entry
>   HEADER
>      Entry
>      Entry
>   HEADER
>      Entry
>      Entry
>      Entry
>
> getting rid of the first header and combining the first two sections made a
> lot more visual sense.
>
> > > and how about on the Favorites page adding a header item, e.g.
> > > "Favorites"? patch attached for that as well...
> >
> > I think that would be redundant.  The headers are only needed to
> > separate groups of items on the same page.
>
> without the header as you switch between pages the content shifts vertical
> position and the presentation of the page shifts. this simply looks better
> visually when switching from page to page.
>
> > > i figure we can either add a header to the first list on the
> Applications
> > > tab and make those headers look like the rest of the headers
> >
> > I'm treating the order of the tabs as fixed at the moment.  I can see
> > that they have been rearranged between OpenSuSE 10.2 to OpenSuSE 10.3
> > based on feedback, so I'm using the same tab layout as in OpenSuSE
> > 10.3.
> >
> > When you say "visually inconsistent," could you expand on that?  I
> > think that adding a header would be redundant, but we could try to
> > align the items from tab to tab.
>
> when you mouse over each tab and watch the content, the contents would move
> up
> or down depend on the tab and the appearance of the header (colour, weight,
> underlining, etc) would shift. it made it look quite inconsistent between
> pages, as if each page were separately designed rather than visually part of
> a whole.
>
> > > i do wonder about the general order of the tabs ... i almost would
> expect
> > > favorites and recently used to be next to each other
> >
> > Favorites and Recently Used were next to each other in the original
> > version of Kickoff, but the current tab layout mirrors OpenSuSE 10.3,
> > I presume the changes were made following user feedback.  You'd have
> > to ask the Stephan and co. for more information.
>
> now that they are visually more consistent, it probably matters even less
> now.
>
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