[Owncloud] JS degration and use custom themes

[Daniel Molkentin]

While I generally agree, Bernhard, I think this misses the OPs point.

Stefan, ownCloud is - by it's very nature - a web application. Creating 
well-working instant-feedback web applications without the use of JS 
simply is not possible. So generally, the requirement of JS is not a 
bug, and we will not support browsers that have JS disabled.

If however, there are special, valid use case that would make pure HTML 
desireble (e.g. for automation), please bring it forward, although 
usually this is where the REST or WebDAV-APIs are usually more useful. 
So what are your use cases?

Daniel

On 03/01/2013 08:29 AM, Bernhard Posselt wrote:
> Yes, its your typical jQuery project. JavaScript is not the problem, 
> the problem is like you said the often missing seperation between view 
> and logic and that makes it at least for me incredibly hard to 
> understand the code.
>
> The solution is to use a proper JS framework like AngularJS 
> http://angularjs.org/ but this has been introduced very recently to 
> people. Also we have too less time for too many bugs, so people dont 
> really have the time to rewrite stuff.
>
> Everyone who wants to improve the code/fix bugs is welcome though. 
> Just contact the people on the IRC/mailinglist if you need help.
>
> PS: Disabling JS is not an option.
>
> On 03/01/2013 08:02 AM, development wrote:
>> Is it me or is *a lot* of owncloud 5 functionality relying heavely on 
>> Javascript, which do not degrade gracefully in browser whixh do not 
>> support or has disabled the use of Javascript?
>> Is this intentionally, or are these bug reports?
>>
>> There is quite some HTML generated through the js-files. I can not 
>> see why this would be required to be in the JS, and not could be 
>> handled through PHP.
>> When we could split functionality (through PHP) and user experience 
>> improvements (mostly js), we could support more browsers and make 
>> owncloud much easier to theme.
>> At the moment if someone would like to override the looks of a simple 
>> form, the JS file from the (core) app is required to be included and 
>> edited inside the theme. In my opinion this could and should be 
>> handled in another way.
>>
>> If people would like some examples, Im happy to provide any..
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>> Stefan Nagtegaal
>>
>>
>> Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobile
>>
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