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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">While I generally agree, Bernhard, I
think this misses the OPs point. <br>
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Stefan, ownCloud is - by it's very nature - a web application.
Creating well-working instant-feedback web applications without
the use of JS simply is not possible. So generally, the
requirement of JS is not a bug, and we will not support browsers
that have JS disabled.<br>
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If however, there are special, valid use case that would make pure
HTML desireble (e.g. for automation), please bring it forward,
although usually this is where the REST or WebDAV-APIs are usually
more useful. So what are your use cases?<br>
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Daniel<br>
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On 03/01/2013 08:29 AM, Bernhard Posselt wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Yes, its your typical jQuery project.
JavaScript is not the problem, the problem is like you said the
often missing seperation between view and logic and that makes
it at least for me incredibly hard to understand the code. <br>
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The solution is to use a proper JS framework like AngularJS
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but this has been introduced very recently to people. Also we
have too less time for too many bugs, so people dont really have
the time to rewrite stuff.<br>
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Everyone who wants to improve the code/fix bugs is welcome
though. Just contact the people on the IRC/mailinglist if you
need help.<br>
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PS: Disabling JS is not an option.<br>
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On 03/01/2013 08:02 AM, development wrote:<br>
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<div>Is it me or is *a lot* of owncloud 5 functionality relying
heavely on Javascript, which do not degrade gracefully in
browser whixh do not support or has disabled the use of
Javascript?</div>
<div>Is this intentionally, or are these bug reports?</div>
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<div>There is quite some HTML generated through the js-files. I
can not see why this would be required to be in the JS, and
not could be handled through PHP.</div>
<div>When we could split functionality (through PHP) and user
experience improvements (mostly js), we could support more
browsers and make owncloud much easier to theme.</div>
<div>At the moment if someone would like to override the looks
of a simple form, the JS file from the (core) app is required
to be included and edited inside the theme. In my opinion this
could and should be handled in another way.</div>
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<div>If people would like some examples, Im happy to provide
any..</div>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
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<div>Stefan Nagtegaal</div>
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<div style="font-size:75%;color:#575757">Verzonden vanaf
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