[Owncloud] My feedback about ownCloud 5

Wed Jun 5 14:20:10 UTC 2013

Hi Laszlo et all,

I think it is very useful to exchange experiences and I would like to learn from yours...

Would you mind sharing how many users do you have and what is the scale of the use (files, file sizes, daily transfers)? Are all your users in one site or are they distributed?

What kind of configuration are you running server-side? And do you possibly know if you have many client platforms on your system?

I am very puzzled because it appears that different people have radically different experiences - such as shown in this email thread - and I wonder where this comes from. Maybe there is some server side configuration that works better then others…  or maybe different scale or set of client platforms...

Many thanks,

kuba

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On Jun 5, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Tornóci László
 <tornoci.laszlo at med.semmelweis-univ.hu>
 wrote:

> On 06/05/2013 03:44 PM, Christian Dähn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm CIO, too and have the same problems: I like OC and it's concept
>> but can't use it in production environments, yet...
>> 
>> Currently I'm stucked to the 4.x release and follow this mailinglist
>> to findout, if the big problems with the sync clients are fixed and
>> the long term awaited encryption is available...
>> 
>> Sadly my OC server is not used for over an half year now by our
>> users, because of serious bugs of the client (thousands of conflict files,
>> no sync and hughe traffic because of endless loops inside the client)...
>> 
>> I would love to see these major problems solved and sometimes I'm
>> a little bit frustrated when I see, that devs spend their time make the
>> user interface more fancy etc.
>> 
>> ciao,
>> Chris
> 
> My experience is different. By the time I started to offer my users "production service" version 5 became available. Yes, there are some really frustrating problems, like you cannot tell the program which addressbook to put a new contact to (makes the use of multiple addressbooks and sharing of them impossible).
> 
> But in my experience the developers are quite helpful, and usually they respond to issues reported on github fast. They do a lot more than just making the interface more fancy.
> 
> I've been following the development of OC for about half a year now, and I am quite impressed by the pace of improvement.
> 
> 					Yours: Laszlo
> 
>> 
>> > On 5. Juni 2013 at 15:32 Dan O'Brien <danobrie at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I think your sentiments are felt by many who had hopes of independent
>> > cloud storage in ownCloud. I agree, it is too buggy to actually use and
>> > be productive with on any kind of scale. With each release it gets
>> > marginally better, but it needs some sort of major overhaul in terms of
>> > sharing and the sync client among other issues.
>> >
>> > I like the concept as well, and I do think it will get there at some
>> > point and the developers are doing very nice work, but I think messages
>> > like these are important for newcomers to see to save them some time.
>> > It is just not reliable as it is today, owncloud needs people to bug
>> > test and provide feedback, my experience has told me as well it is not
>> > ready to replace your dropbox or gdrive or whatever, unless you are
>> > prepared to deal with issues on a very regular basis. Newcomers need to
>> > know that.
>> >
>> > -Dan
>> >
>> >
>> > On 6/4/2013 5:27 AM, Thomas ROBERT wrote:
>> > > Hello everyone,
>> > >
>> > > I'm using owncloud for a few month now and I would like to give you my
>> > > feedback about it. So this message is mostly for the developers of
>> > > ownCloud.
>> > >
>> > > Just to give you some context, I'm the "CIO" of an association and we
>> > > need a storage system.
>> > > The specifications of our system is:
>> > > - storage of the files on the cloud
>> > > - we have different folders, one for each of our activity (~ 3 Go,
>> > > mostly odp and pdf but also sometimes bigger files)
>> > > - 1 computer sync with all the files (synced with the master user)
>> > > - users that can have access to some of the folders of the master user
>> > > (sharing configuration chosen by this master user) and that need to be
>> > > able to sync them of their personal computer
>> > >
>> > > We first use Dropbox with its sharing option and client sync. A few
>> > > month ago, I chose to switch from Dropbox to ownCloud because it
>> > > seemed to have nice advantages (keeping files on my own server, having
>> > > the storage space I want, better managing of user accounts, calendar
>> > > function, etc.).
>> > >
>> > > Currently I must say that the sharing and deleting function of
>> > > owncloud is quite problematic regarding my intense usage of it, and
>> > > far away from those of Dropbox and Google Drive.
>> > > ownCloud is based on a very nice concept but still have - I think -
>> > > some very big issues to fix before being ready for a powerful use. I'm
>> > > having for example big difficulties with the client software (don't
>> > > sync, ...), with versionning and the deletion of shared files etc.
>> > >
>> > > I also feel like the development of ownCloud is either slow or focused
>> > > on things I don't see or use. When I propose a vital function
>> > > according to me, it seems that in your system it's impossible to be
>> > > done. Ex : https://github.com/owncloud/core/issues/3058
>> > > Maybe it's just because ownCloud is developed for another kind of
>> > > usage than mine. Maybe my usage is a bit particular. But if you think
>> > > modifying ownCloud to fit my usage is worth it, maybe you should
>> > > reconsider how some big feature like sharing or deleting works because
>> > > it seems to me that you are stuck with the way it currently works.
>> > >
>> > > Again, I love the concept of ownCloud, but I'm using it for quite a
>> > > while now and I'm now thinking of switching again for Google Drive
>> > > because of all the problems I'm having with ownCloud. And I'm quite
>> > > sad about it.
>> > >
>> > > I just wanted to give you guys my feedback of this software that I do
>> > > love in the concept, even if I'm having problems with it.
>> > >
>> > > Have a nice day.
>> > > Bye.
>> > > Thomas ROBERT
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