[Owncloud] File upload

Thu Aug 9 11:54:04 UTC 2012

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Thomas Müller <thomas.mueller at tmit.eu> wrote:
>
> Am Donnerstag, dem 09.08.2012 um 10:54 schrieb Jan-Christoph Borchardt:
>> Exactly that is the reason why for publicly shared stuff, there should
>> never be a token but rather the address should look like
>> owncloudprovider.com/username/folder/ (or filename)
I think the token is quite a great feature for security and great when
you have editable and upload enabled sharing.
>>
>
> That's what I want to have!
> Can we make it for OC5? Maybe not I guess.
I'm not sure if that shouldn't be an extra feature. (share everything
savely via token link and have a public folder, which can be accessed
dropbox style and triggers sharing with these urls)
It's actually quite confusing I assume and therefore would just go
with the sharing we have now.
>
>> The counter-argument, and reason why it is not so, is (as I
>> understand) that other shared files could be guessable. This is not
>> really important as a) no it’s not (at least not easily) b) the files
>> are shared publicly anyway c) dropbox does it exactly like that.
>>
Don't like the argument "someone else is doing it"!
>
> As long as we can separate upload from download I see no issues.
> Because files uploaded by a non-ownCloud user are not necessarily public for download by everybody else.

>
> Tom
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Thomas Müller <thomas.mueller at tmit.eu> wrote:
>> > Can we add support for an "easy to remember" URL?
>> >
>> > I am thinking of the case that I want somebody upload file to my cloud agile I am not online. (E.g. talking on the phone while on travel)
>> >
>> > I cannot remember a link with a random token inside. But that I can:
>> > http://cloud.domain.tld/upload/thomas
>> >
>> > Thx
>> >
>> > Jan-Christoph Borchardt <hey at jancborchardt.net> schrieb:
>> >
>> >>The same suggestion came up last year, as the webmaster of my
>> >>university mentioned that would be a great thing to have.
>> >>I discussed it with Michael and we decided it would be best to couple
>> >>it with sharing.
>> >>
>> >>It would simply add a checkbox »allow upload« to the public part of
>> >>the sharing dropdown. With that, everyone who has the link for that
>> >>folder can upload into it, no matter if they have ownCloud or not.
>> >>
>> >>It will look like a shared folder does now, except that the New/Upload
>> >>button is present.
>> >>As far as file modification goes, people with the link (not on
>> >>ownCloud) can only upload and modify files they themselves uploaded –
>> >>this includes move (into subfolders), edit and deletion, for example
>> >>when a file was uploaded mistakenly.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>[Wiki entry for reference: »enable people (not on ownCloud) to upload
>> >>files when you give them a specific link (to a public folder for
>> >>example)«, from Sharing on https://gitorious.org/owncloud/pages/Home ]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Michael Grosser
>> >><owncloud at seetheprogress.net> wrote:
>> >>> I would say profile page is bad.
>> >>> Using usernames is bad too.
>> >>> The suggestion I would make is using the sharing functionality.
>> >>> We could just provide another sharing option. (aka writeaccess)
>> >>> So you can share a folder link (pretty secure - token etc.) and give
>> >>> write access. If you don't want it anymore just edit the sharing
>> >>> permissions and done.
>> >>>
>> >>> Some additional suddestion for sharing (just came to my mind) an
>> >>> overview table on what is shared with what permission and an easy way
>> >>> to edit the permissions or delete the share. I know it's in the
>> >>> database, but some sort of interface would be cool. So you don't have
>> >>> to dig through all your folders etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers Michael
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Christian van de Weyer
>> >>> <christian at vandeweyer.de> wrote:
>> >>>> Hello Tom,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am just an ordinary user (and new to oC).
>> >>>> This is exactly what I need for my customers:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> the feature to allow file upload to a user space by somebody else
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I can imagine, that - if implemented in a proper way - could be a „killer
>> >>>> feature” on the market.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Many Greetings and thanks for the work you (all) put in oC!
>> >>>> _____________________
>> >>>> Christian van de Weyer
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 90768 Fürth
>> >>>> christian at vandeweyer.de
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Am 06.08.2012 um 12:06 schrieb Thomas Müller:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I recently got feedback from one of our users, who showed some interest
>> >>>> in the feature to allow file upload to a user space by somebody else.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This topic has been discussed on this ticket:
>> >>>> http://bugs.owncloud.org/thebuggenie/owncloud/issues/oc-190
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Some basic implementation can be found here (worked for OC3):
>> >>>> https://gitorious.org/my-owncloud-apps/file_drop
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm interested in your opinion on this feature:
>> >>>> - Is it something we'd like to have as an core app like e.g. contacts or is
>> >>>> it something for the appstore?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Do we want to merge the feature with some kind of general user page?
>> >>>>  (Display profile pic, name email ....)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - The current implementation requires the external user to enter the user
>> >>>> name to where the file should be uploaded.
>> >>>>  From an UX point of view this is bad - from a security point of view it
>> >>>> might be better than a user page which could be crawled by bots.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> THX,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tom
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