[Owncloud] Gitorious vs Github

Jan-Christoph Borchardt hey at jancborchardt.net
Sat Apr 28 20:21:41 UTC 2012


Not to open a can of worms (again), but I think the choice of platform
is essential. And the question why we don’t use Github is justified at
this point, just as it was back then when we discussed the move from
KDE projects to Gitorious. (Back then the main argument was exposure
and leveraging everyone already on Gitorious.) Git is decentralized
already, so the platform mainly just needs to perform the tasks of
exposure, usability and uptime: where Github is highly superior to
Gitorious.


A more verbose explanation of why I changed my mind from being a
Gitorious proponent to Github (adapted from a post of mine to the
Unhosted mailing list, explaining why we use Github:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/unhosted/XF_b_mP-edw/ddLHK4oq-RAJ
)

I am very much a free web software enthusiast but I also regard the
openness and usability of a platform as paramount. In that respect,
Gitorious is much too closed: it’s just a centralized hosting platform
like Github, except that it runs free software – which we can’t even
verify because it’s on a server we do not control. And it doesn’t have
an integrated issue tracker which we really need, at the moment we
have to use thebuggenie which is a serious pain in itself – in Github,
issue management is way simpler. And Gitorious has downtimes, not just
last week but it had many in the past. In comparison, I never had
problems with Github – they can’t afford downtime. In addition, Github
has lots more like automatic continuous integration through Travis-CI
(http://travis-ci.org ) and other neat things useful for our future.

Software freedom – and in this case the freedom of the software we use
for development – is just a means, not an end. Our goal is the freedom
of others, that of the people we make the software for. And that can
be achieved best & fastest by using Github and by leveraging a vast
range of enthusiastic developers & designers which are, as it is,
mostly on Github.




On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Klaas Freitag <freitag at owncloud.com> wrote:
> On 27.04.2012 18:46, Georg Ehrke wrote:
>>
>>
> Hi Georg,
>
>>>
>> btw. i was always interested why we use gitorious and not github?
>
>
> I think (and hope) that is because gitorious is free software while github
> is propietory. That is a value for us.
>
> regards,
>
> Klaas
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