[Owncloud] Is Owncloud still a KDE project? - Was: Re: Business and Backup Sprint in Zurich - Oct 21 to 23

Cody Rose cody at killsudo.info
Mon Sep 26 09:30:07 UTC 2011 

Also since it had been a while since my last KDE donation I stepped up.

http://www.kde.org/community/donations/previousdonations.php


26th 09:22
€ 15.0
Putting my money where my mouth is. Keep on rocking KDE!


I challenge any other OwnCloud/KDE users that are on this mailing-list to step 
up and show the OwnCloud developers what kind of support they can expect to 
receive if they remain a KDE project.  ;)

Regards,
 
Cody Rose
Datacenter NOC & Sys Admin

> > I think it's a horribly excluding attitude by the otherwise appreciated
> > sys-admins. We are a kde-project but we're also something else.
> > What about getting the "full kde-package" which is sort of silly and just
> > place a link in git to gitorious? It's silly but really the "It's all or
> > nothing" is also silly.
> > Otherwise asking the KDE ev. would also be a possibility - we are kind of
> > a new project.
> 
> The KDE Sysadmin's do not write the policy but only enforce it. Second of
> all the policy was created by KDE e.V. which is made up of all the KDE
> Developers.
> 
> The policy exists to ensure that ALL KDE projects are in ONE place. Period.
> 
> This makes life so much simpler for distribution packagers and users alike.
> You would not enjoy the results if each distro packager had to go hunting
> for the latest code / release in 100 different repo's all over the web.
> This allows for code security in that each packager can be sure he is
> grabbing the real deal for his users. The policy also allows KDE to track
> all code contributions for licensing purposes to ensure that the proper
> people are credited and if a licensing issue ever arose that KDE e.V. can
> attempt to reach every last KDE developer is a timely fashion.
> 
> The policy also means that any new OwnCloud developer would have git access
> for more then just OwnCloud. They benefit by being able to contribute to
> all of KDE in one central place if they so choose. Otherwise they can
> register as a KDE developer and only contribute to Owncloud if that is all
> they would like to do. This is turn benefits KDE developers, packagers,
> users, e.V. etc but basically the entire KDE eco-system benefits from this
> policy.
> 
> As a person that financially contributes to KDE e.V. I welcome this policy
> and do not want to see any 'special privileged' project that gets to
> benefit from my donation but doesn't conform to the rest of KDE standards.
> It is always easier to say NO then allow for a special exception. It's
> never just one special exception because eventually another will pop up.
> 
> I do not see how a KDE git repo restricts users in any way. You can freely
> pull any project from anongit.kde.org and any user is welcome to register
> as a KDE dev or submit a patch on this ML if he/she feels it is a one time
> contribution. The long term hope is that the one time contributor will see
> the value of becoming a KDE developer and in the future contribute to
> other KDE projects.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Cody Rose
> Datacenter NOC & Sys Admin
> 
> > On 26-09-2011 10:10, Cody Rose wrote:
> > > Is Owncloud still a KDE project or did you guys finally decide against
> > > remaining a 'KDE' project?
> > > 
> > >> * contacting/coordinating with KDE e.V. for travel allowance (what
> > >> about food?)
> > > 
> > > I don't think this will be much help if Owncloud decided to remove
> > > itself as a KDE project.
> > > 
> > > Also if Owncloud is on its own has anyone coordinate with getting a new
> > > Mailing-List setup for October 1?
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Cody Rose
> > > Datacenter NOC&  Sys Admin
> > > 
> > >> Re: [Owncloud] Notice concerning use of KDE Infrastructure and move to
> > >> Gitorious
> > >> 09/02/11 3:17 AM
> > >> 
> > >> Hi,
> > >> 
> > >> Unfortunately that won't be possible. You can not randomly pick KDE
> > >> infrastructure items you like and only use them. It's all or nothing.
> > >> You can't say that you are 'still KDE afterall' when you just decided
> > >> to move to gitorious.
> > >> 
> > >> Besides that, this is confusing for both developers and users.
> > >> 
> > >> Tom Albers
> > >> KDE Sysadmin
> > >> Hi Tom,
> > >> 
> > >> we no longer need the kde git repo and bugzilla.
> > >> But we would still like to use the mailinglist. We are still KDE
> > >> afterall. :-)
> > >> 
> > >> Not sure about the wiki pages at the moment. We will look into this.
> > >> 
> > >> Sorry for the confusion.
> > >> 
> > >> Cheers
> > >> Frank
> > >> 
> > >> On 02.09.2011, at 09:57, Tom Albers wrote:
> > >>> Hi Frank,
> > >>> 
> > >>> That means we close the owncloud bugtracker, mailinglist,
> > >>> wiki-pages, etc. Shall we pick a date for that, assuming you need
> > >>> a bit of time to move stuff over.. Let's say october 1st?
> > >>> 
> > >>> Best,
> > >>> 
> > >>> Tom Albers
> > >>> KDE Sysadmin
> > >>> 
> > >>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > >> 
> > >> Hi all
> > >> 
> > >> Real life (tm) has been quite busy lately. That's why it has taken a
> > >> bit longer than planed to get to you with news about the owncloud
> > >> sprint in Zurich.
> > >> So far 5 ownclouders and 3 "externals" (including myself) have
> > >> confirmed their attendance. If you plan to come but haven't added
> > >> yourself to the doodle yet, please do so now
> > >> http://www.doodle.com/kxq9ye85bu52niyg
> > >> 
> > >> The hacking room is reserved and I'm currently looking for beds and
> > >> sofas for you to sleep. So far so good.
> > >> 
> > >> Now I need your help to work out the details, including...
> > >> * contacting/coordinating with KDE e.V. for travel allowance (what
> > >> about food?)
> > >> * planing the schedule (where/how do we do that? Titanpad?)
> > >> * all the things I haven't though about yet (I have no experience in
> > >> organizing sprints)
> > >> 
> > >> Thanks in advance
> > >> Cheers
> > >> Pascal
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> Owncloud at kde.org
> > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> Owncloud at kde.org
> > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud
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