[Owncloud] Email handling in ownCloud

[Nicolas Le Manchet]

Hello everyone,
yes the idea around OC is to keep it simple, but also to make your data
being YOUR data. Having a simple way to get full email support in owncloud
would be a killer feature, and I know a lot of people that would love to
have such a thing.

Regards,
Nicolas

2011/11/7 Daniel <nix at tek12.com>

> On 11/07/2011 03:13 PM, Advrk Aplmrkt wrote:
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>> On 7 November 2011 07:51, Thomas Müller<thomas.mueller at tmit.eu>  wrote:
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>>> Am Montag, den 07.11.2011 um 13:10 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
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>>>> On 07.11.2011, at 12:33, Advrk Aplmrkt wrote:
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>>>>  On 7 November 2011 05:15, Frank Karlitschek<karlitschek at kde.**org<karlitschek at kde.org>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> having a full fledged email server in ownCloud is not an option at
>>>>>> the moment because it requires an SMTP daemon, spam filtering, an imap
>>>>>> server, dns configuration and more which is not easily doable for normal
>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I've been trying Citadel groupware server
>>>>> (http://www.citadel.org/doku.**php <http://www.citadel.org/doku.php>).
>>>>> It is a complete, well-established,
>>>>> fully GPL'ed, email server that's extremely easy to setup (it has an
>>>>> automated install script).
>>>>> I might be hard to bundle a Citadel server as part of ownCloud, but
>>>>> perhaps some integration could be developed so that the two work well
>>>>> together?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely. It would be cool to integrate different Groupware solutions
>>>> into the ownCloud webinterface.
>>>> I already started a simple proof of concept integration for Kolab.
>>>> https://gitorious.org/**owncloud/apps/trees/master/**kolab<https://gitorious.org/owncloud/apps/trees/master/kolab>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>> Frank Karlitschek
>>>> karlitschek at kde.org
>>>>
>>>
>>> I totally disagree on that - sorry! ;-)
>>>
>>> First of all it feels odd!
>>>
>>> Second any groupware out there offers calendar, contacts and file
>>> management - why did
>>> ownCloud implement that - but not the mailing stuff?
>>>
>>> All these groupware solutions mainly rely on other components for
>>> emailing (CourierIMAP, PostFix, spamassassin ......) and
>>> ship scripts for (almost) automated installation. At least this in my
>>> experience with GroupOffice.
>>> ownCloud could deliver such scripts as well - but that's now what I want
>>> to have!
>>>
>>> I want all my data stored within my cloud! And this - most of all -
>>> includes my emails as well!
>>> For sure integration of the email client with contacts and calendars
>>> must work smooth as well.
>>>
>>> I'd like to see ownCloud become my private data vacuum clean - sucking
>>> it all in! ;-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>
>> I agree with your disagreement in that it may seem odd. :p
>> But, I think ultimately it would be the most awesome if ownCloud could
>> provide its users with the flexibility to:
>>
>> (1) Integrate with other groupware systems such as Kolab or Citadel to
>> gain email functionality. This can be done by providing plugins to
>> ownCloud for integrating with other groupwares.
>>
>> OR
>>
>> (2) Using email functionality that comes with ownCloud.
>>
>> If ownCloud can provide *both* (1) and (2), then that's a huge win for
>> flexibility. For instance, some users could "add" ownCloud to their
>> existing server infrastructure, while other users would use ownCloud's
>> builtin services to start a whole new groupware server. This would be
>> a killer feature of ownCloud that makes it stand out from other
>> groupwares, and potentially welcome swathes of new users!
>>
>> Unfortunately I have almost no programming experience, but would love
>> to help in any way possible to help realise (1) and (2).
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> I think the idea around Owncloud is to keep it simple (correct me if I'm
> wrong). IMHO, there's nothing simple about properly configuring an
> email/spam filtering solution - and it requires maintenance to some degree.
> I think that puts owncloud out of reach for some peoples technical ability.
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> +1 for the idea of integrating roundcube as a plugin, and really all your
> missing after that is a postfix admin module. Then owncloud could have all
> the bits and pieces that one would need without requiring any of it.
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