[Okular-devel] Bug 157198 - Remember position on the page in bookmark

[Mailson Lira]

I'm gonna follow your advice and ask this on the forum. It's important to
have a feedback from the users.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 20:13, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:

> El Dilluns, 12 de març de 2012, a les 09:52:45, Mailson Lira va escriure:
> > Hi everyone,
>
> Hi
>
> > Currently I'm working on this new
> > feature[1<https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157198>]
> > which is make bookmark remember where in the page it was saved. The
> > solution is to make the bookmark save the center of the viewport, not
> only
> > the page number. With that in mind, the user now can have as many
> bookmarks
> > as he wants on a given page.
>
> True, i had not though about when i told you to implement it, good catch
> :-)
>
> > This will change the behavior of the program, so I need to ask a few
> > questions on how this should work.
> >
> > == Case 1 - "Remove bookmark" menu action ==
> >
> > If you right click on a *bookmarked* page (or click on Bookmark in
> > menubar), you'll see an option to remove the current bookmark instead of
> > adding a new one.
> >
> > Since the user can add another bookmark on another position we can't
> simply
> > show the "Remove bookmark" option on a bookmarked page anymore.
> >
> > So what should we do with the "Remove bookmark" option?
> > - Check if the use is at the exact position of the bookmark and then show
> > the option to remove it? That may not be a good idea since if the user
> > moves 1px to the left, he's not on that bookmark position anymore.
>
> Nope, too dificut.
>
> > - Show an extra option to remove all bookmarks on the page or the last
> > bookmark added? With that the "Remove bookmark" will not replace the "Add
> > bookmark" option.
>
> "Remove Last added" is not a gread idea, i won't remember which is the last
> one i added tomorrow.
>
> >
> > - Make the "Remove bookmark" option available when the viewport very
> close
> > to the bookmark position, so it doesn't need to be at the exact position.
> > That's tricky.
>
> Yeah, too fuzzy.
>
> >
> > Any suggestions?
>
> Not sure. Problem is I'm not a heaviy user of Okular myself so I am not
> sure
> what is the best solution. One solution i can see working would be keeping
> the
> Add/Remove Bookmark Page feature, and then adding a new item menu that is
> "Bookmark this position" (in oposion to 'this page'). For these "position"
> based bookmarks you would only be able to remove them from the bookmark
> manager in the sidebar (and we'd probably need some kind of icon
> identifying
> them as special bookmarks).
>
> This might be some extra over-engineering though, you might want to hang in
> the #kde or #kde-cafe channels in irc.freenode.net and ask for opinions
> there
> or post in the kde forums to get some more okular users input as to how
> this
> would work. Asking the person that initially requested the feature might
> also
> work (even maybe he won't answer as the feature was requested years ago).
>
> Of course I'm not saying you have to implement what users say but they
> might
> have a good idea ;-)
>
> >
> > == Case 2 - Ctrl+B shortcut ==
> >
> > The Ctrl+B shortcut add or remove the page to bookmark. That may not work
> > well if we have many bookmarks in the page.
> > Should we detect if the current viewport is saved to bookmarks and then
> > Ctrl+B will remove them? Or that shortcut will just add bookmark and the
> > user needs to go to the list of saved bookmarks on the left side and
> remove
> > it manually?
> >
> > The first can lead to undesirable results such as the user adding various
> > bookmarks on very close (but different) positions when what he really
> > wanted was to remove a bookmark.
>
> That's basically the same problem as Case 1 but using the shortcut instead
> of
> the menu, we shoud solve Case 1 first and then apply the same rationale
> here.
>
> >
> > == Case 3 - Save only one bookmark per page ==
> >
> > The bookmark will remember the position on the page but will still allow
> > only one bookmark per page. That will not change the behavior of okular
> but
> > IMHO doesn't make much sense.
>
> Why you say this? Isn't your whole email based in the assumtption that
> there
> will be more than one bookmark per page?
>
> Albert
>
> >
> > == ==
> >
> > Sorry for the long message but I had to ask those questions.
> >
> > [1] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157198
> >
> > --
> > Mailson Lira
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