Necessitas is NOT ... (consolidating infrastructure)

Ray Donnelly mingw.android at gmail.com
Sun Mar 18 09:49:56 UTC 2012


Thanks Marco!
On Mar 18, 2012 4:02 AM, "Marco Bernasocchi" <marco at bernawebdesign.ch>
wrote:

> Hi all i started migrating all open bugs from google to SF. I ll have a
> look at kde bugtrackrer to see if it can be simplified. Bogdan can u give
> me more power? :) ill use it only for good i promise  ;)
>
> As well, i can look into moving sf wiki to kde and then link to it.
>
> Let me know
> Ciao
>
> Marco Bernasocchi (mobile)
> http://opengis.ch
> On Mar 18, 2012 9:52 AM, "BogDan" <bog_dan_ro at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Actually we are using almost all KDE services:
>> - wiki (the development plan is there), the lack of man power prevent us
>> to move everything to kde wiki from the beginning. Now is a little bit
>> difficult to shutdown sf.net and google code. because a lot of people
>> get used with them.
>> - project page (redmine) we are already using it (
>> https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/mobile/necessitas)
>> - mailing list, necessitas primary development is necessitas-devel,
>> android-qt is a general mailing list which can not be shutdown because it
>> has a lot of members. IMHO is better how it is because necessitas-devel is
>> low traffic where the developer can track all the threads.
>> - dot.kde.org - we are already using it, search for necessitas on it !
>> - forums - I'm ok with forums.
>> - planetkde.org - as you may seen, I'm not a great talker and I don't
>> have a blog, but it will be great if someone else can do this job !
>>
>>   Personally I like bugzilla very much, the problem is that it is to
>> complicated for a normal user. I really tried to move bugtracker to kde but
>> I received a lot of negative feedback e.g. why do I have to create another
>> account there (sf.net can use openid), why do I have to tell you if my
>> distro is rpm or deb based, or if I install it from sources, etc. You see
>> these questions are not useful for necessitas project, and I don't know if
>> KDE sysadmins can remove them *ONLY* for Necessitas project.
>>
>> "and not just have a cheap download server" sound like we take advantage
>> of KDE, which is not the case !
>>
>> KDE e.v. owns the copyright for *ALL* *MY* code that is hosted on their
>> servers !
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> BogDan.
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>  From:  Niko Sams <niko.sams at gmail.com>;
>> To:  Marco Bernasocchi <marco at bernawebdesign.ch>;
>> Cc:  BogDan <bog_dan_ro at yahoo.com>; necessitas-devel at kde.org <
>> necessitas-devel at kde.org>;
>> Subject:  Re: Necessitas is NOT ... (consolidating infrastructure)
>> Sent:  Sun, Mar 18, 2012 6:24:37 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 17.03.2012 22:02 schrieb "Marco Bernasocchi" <marco at bernawebdesign.ch
>> >:
>> >
>> > Marco Bernasocchi (mobile)
>> > http://opengis.ch
>> >
>> > On Mar 17, 2012 9:41 PM, "BogDan" <bog_dan_ro at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [...]
>> > > >>  Nobody wanted to do it! I can't do everything by myself !
>> > > > I can maybe do some of it, but don't we want to move all to
>> > > > http://community.kde.org/Necessitas and eventually shut down the
>> sf page?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > It's up to you ! The problem is that currently the sf.net home page
>> is used by too may users to shut down it immediately, also it has an easier
>> and better bugtracker than KDE and google code, so, IMHO it will be wise to
>> keep them both and to use sf.net page as primary until we get something
>> better, but as I said, in the end is up to you !
>> >
>> > Ok, then lets stick to SF, and lets try to shut down the other
>> bugtrackers. Kde bt has only 5 bugs and google has only few more. Is it ok
>> if i duplicate them to SF?
>> >
>> > As well, can i get edit rights for sf? Im mbernasocchi.
>> If Necessitas want's to be a KDE project, it should use *all* KDE
>> services like:
>> - wiki
>> - git
>> - reviewboard
>> - project page (redmine)
>> - bugtracker
>> - mailing lists
>> - eventually forum
>> - download server
>> - dot.kde.org announcements
>> - yes, even planetkde.org
>> Only git, reviewboard and download server are used atm. mailing list is
>> half used.
>> Imho this situation is confusing and you should completely move to kde
>> infrastructure if you really want to be a KDE project (and not just have a
>> cheap download server)
>> I understand that you don't like bugzilla... that personal preference - I
>> don't like sf the bugtracker.
>>
>> Niko
>>
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