Releases schedules and policy
BogDan
bog_dan_ro at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 15 14:58:25 UTC 2011
> If I got you right the 2 options are:
>
> A: 2 release:
> alpha3: more or less current state
> alpha4: more or less current state + Java-interface-rewrite
>
> or B: 1 release named alpha3: "more or less current state + Java-interface-
> rewrite" (as alpha4 in PlanA)
>
> right?
>
Right !
> And after that we might need another alpha if we want to break API/ABI before
> release?
>
Right !
>
> The last alpha is named beta as soon as it's API/ABI stability is confirmed?
>
Yes, let's say one month after release.
>
> I personally like more and smaller releases => I would vote for PlanA ...
> but your right 2-3 weeks delay is properly not worth it.
>
>
> I totally agree with Oct.15.!
Oct.15 is for Plan B, if we decide to go with that one.
>
> I want to show people opengl-accelerated apps out of the app-store :)
>
>
>
> As soon as we get the next release I write a blog-post on labs.qt.nokia.com
> ... unless some else wants to :)
> (and push the qmlshowcase to android-market)
>
>
> Greets
> Thomas
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 02:31:28 PM ext BogDan wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I want to share with you my thoughts/plans for next releases, also I have a
>> proposal regarding releasing policy. Any feedback is highly appreciated !
>>
>> ====Releases schedules ====
>> Plan A:
>>
>> As you may know, currently we are trying to release Necessitas alpha3, we
>> still need to implement some missing things to SDK Installer, also I've
>> seen some show stopper issues, which must be fixed before release, the plan
>> is to try to release it this month, and it should be the last but one alpha
>> release.
>>
>> After this release we'll need 2-3 weeks to redesign Ministro and Java
>> part, then we don't have to worry about java <==> android
> platform
>> incompatibility, so we can release last alpha. After a few weeks, *IF NO*
>> regressions are reported we can rename the release as beta which will
>> *GUARANTEE* API/ABI compatibility. If someone will report issues which to
>> fix them we'll break API/ABI compatibility, we must release another
> alpha.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>> Plan B:
>>
>> Delay with one month this release, meanwhile we'll do our best to
> redesign
>> Java part and Minitro, so alpha 3 release should be last alpha release,
>> then, after a few weeks *IF NO* regressions are reported we can rename the
>> release as beta.
>> I'd like to have this alpha shipped *BEFORE* Qt dev days ! :) So we
> must
>> have everything in place before Oct. 15 !
>>
>> IMHO plan B is better, because this way we can ship fist beta earlier with
>> at least 2-3 weeks (the time needed to create and test a SDK for a
>> release).
>>
>> We need to decide which plan we'll use, so your thoughts are very
> welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> ====Releases policy ====
>>
>> Before we release first beta we also must have a policy about what
>> branches will use to release a Ministro repository and who is allowed to
>> push in those branches.
>> First I want to share with you current architecture, Ministro is using 3
>> different repositories similarly with Debian (which IMHO is one of the most
>> successfully community project out there, so I want to follow their path):
>> 1 - *unstable*
>> 2 - *testing*
>> 3 - *stable* default repository used by Ministro.
>>
>> Ministro is using *stable* repository by default, and to change it you need
>> to download another tool (Ministro Configuration Tool), this tool can be
>> use by developer to test their apps against *unstable* and *testing* repos.
>>
>> Who it works ?
>> Every new release will go first into *unstable* repo, there it should stay
> a
>> while (IMHO it should be at least one month), then if *NO REGRESSION(s)*
>> are reported we'll move it to *testing* repository, then again it
> should
>> stay another month for further testing, then if nobody reports *REGRESSION*
>> we'll move it into *stable*, of course no new releases with new
> features
>> will be released until this release will land on stable repository. This
>> way every developer has the chance to stop a release if it will break his
>> existing apps on Android Market, so, if you are a developer and you have an
>> application deployed on Market, you only need to download Ministro
>> Configuration Tool, change Minsitro repository, and test your application
>> against new qt libs.
>>
>> Because Minsitro uses 3 repositories we should also use 3 branches for qt,
>> qtcreator, webkit, etc. with the same names. This branches are very
>> important, so, we should create some rules, e.g. who has the right to push
>> into this branches and in what conditions. My proposal is nobody should
>> push directly to this branches, without a discussion on this mailing list
>> and without a review by other two (or more) Necessitas developers.
>>
>>
>> Also on this topic I need your feedback !
>>
>> Sorry for the big post :)
>> Thank you for your time !
>>
>> Cheers,
>> BogDan.
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