[Kstars-devel] Print Wizard

Fri Apr 4 14:46:32 UTC 2014

Hi Bruce,

I think we can expand this to the visual observer by creating a print out
> for
> each object.  So if the astronomer picks 15 objects to observe in a
> session.
> Say that he/she is observing visually.  Now we give them the ability to
> print
> out page/s for each object to be observed, much like we do with the print
> wizard.  Then the next day the observer can come home and record his/her
> results in Kstars.
>
>
Yes, this is indeed a good idea. It is also not hard at all to implement,
as it would require only a list of sky objects to be passed to the printing
wizard.

> I noticed that in the Planning Session feature has a place to put notes.
> How
> does one review old observations?  It seems to me that the whole point to
> keeps notes is that you can go back to them for review and research.  Maybe
> there should be a search feature.
>

This would be a nice addition too. Also, not a big deal to implement.

>
> Could we make the Notes section more like the Print Wizard printout?  I
> see a
> specific place for sky conditions eye pieces used, automatic calculation of
> magnification based on telescope and each eye piece used.  This
> information can
> be taken for the Equipment section. Caveat: If a observer has more than one
> telescope we might need a menu (drop down) to choose telescope and eye
> pieces.
> Maybe be the observations could be tied to a calendar?

> How will a observer enter his/her data.  Well I see two methods the first
> is
> base on Kstars present setup.  The observer would have to search out each
> object in his/her list via the sky view, centre it and then right click and
> choose Details, then log.  What I like to see added would be a method to do
> the same thing, but via the Observation Plan, Session Plan.
>
> Question:  What is the point of a Observation Plan, Session Plan, and note
> taking?  You don't just take notes to forget about them, they are there for
> future review and research.  Lets take Kstars to the next level lets beef
> up
> the note taking capability.
>

I agree that note-taking is not a strong point of KStars right now. I am
working on OAL support - if everything goes fine, it should be in master
branch during this summer (my MSc thesis is keeping me busy right now). The
idea is that with OAL-compliant logging, the only thing that would be
required apart from it, is this simple note-taking feature. What's your
opinion on that?

Many thanks for your suggestions!

Cheers!
Rafal

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> >    1. Re: Print Wizard (Rafal Kulaga)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 00:40:07 +0100
> > From: Rafal Kulaga <rl.kulaga at gmail.com>
> > To: Bruce <bruce.harding at gmail.com>
> > Cc: KStars Development Mailing List <kstars-devel at kde.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Kstars-devel] Print Wizard
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> > Hi Bruce,
> >
> > Oh, I get it. Yes, we can do this either by adding appropriate message to
> > the status bar or by painting a text box over the sky map.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rafal
> >
> > 2014-03-26 23:51 GMT+01:00 Bruce <bruce.harding at gmail.com>:
> > > Thanks for the quick response.
> > >
> > > On the issue of FOV capture as you use the Page Up Or Down key is not
> > > clear to
> > > me what the FOV is that is being captured.  Is there a way to convey
> this
> > > on
> > > the screen as you Page Up Or Down?
> > >
> > > On March 25, 2014 12:29:47 PM Rafal Kulaga wrote:
> > > > Hi Bruce,
> > > >
> > > > Oh, I see where the problem is. I will add the "Field notes" field
> and
> > >
> > > move
> > >
> > > > FOV snapshots together with the heading to the next page.
> > > >
> > > > Borders can be easily added to FOV snapshots - added to my TODO list
> > > > too.
> > > >
> > > > The integration with WUT feature in a way that you described is easy
> to
> > >
> > > do
> > >
> > > > - everything that's needed is a list of SkyObjects passed. Will do
> that
> > >
> > > too.
> > >
> > > > As it comes to FOV capture - do you mean that zooming should be done
> > >
> > > before
> > >
> > > > the actual capture?
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks for your useful suggestions! I'll let you know when those
> > > > changes are implemented.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > > Rafal
> > > >
> > > > 2014-03-24 14:24 GMT+01:00 Bruce <bruce.harding at gmail.com>:
> > > > > Rafal,
> > > > >
> > > > > There are several things I would change.
> > > > >
> > > > > Logging Form should have a section for "Field Notes" it should
> take up
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > > rest of the page.
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that this heading "Field Of View Snapshots" is not with the
> > > > > snapshots.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Field of View Snapshots" should have surround borders to give
> > >
> > > definition
> > >
> > > > > to
> > > > > the capture and help define what is to be seen through one's
> > > > > telescope.
> > > > >
> > > > > The "Details About Object" should have it's own page.
> > > > >
> > > > > When in the process of choosing the image to capture, to me it
> seems
> > > > > unclear
> > > > > what FOV are being captured.  Is there a way of showing this before
> > > > > hitting
> > > > > the "K" to capture the image?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a way to connect the "What's Up Tonight" feature with the
> > >
> > > "Print
> > >
> > > > > Wizard" feature? How about adding a link under the "Slew Map To
> > > > > Object"
> > > > > that
> > > > > says "Send to Print Wizard"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally I think this feature should be integrated into the
> > >
> > > "Observation
> > >
> > > > > Planner" under "Field Notes" or something similar.
> > > > >
> > > > > I look forward to feed back on the above.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ==
> > > > > bruce
> > > > >
> > > > > On March 24, 2014 12:23:02 PM Rafal Kulaga wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Bruce!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could you possibly send me a screenshot or a PDF of the affected
> > > > >
> > > > > document?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Rafal
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2014-03-24 5:14 GMT+01:00 Bruce <lists at faintfuzzies.ca>:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was using the feature Print Wizard when I noticed and issue.
> > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > headings
> > > > > > > do not break with the feature they are describing.  Give it a
> try
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > > let
> > > > >
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > know if you have a different result.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ==
> > > > > > > bruce
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