[Kroupware] Re: [Kde-pim] kontact

[Ralf Nolden]

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On Mittwoch, 12. M=E4rz 2003 14:51, Don Sanders wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 March 2003 21:15, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > On Mittwoch, 12. M=E4rz 2003 12:23, Don Sanders wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 12 March 2003 19:25, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > > > On Mittwoch, 12. M=E4rz 2003 05:17, Don Sanders wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday 12 March 2003 14:11, Don Sanders wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday 11 March 2003 23:07, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > > > > > > On Dienstag, 11. M=E4rz 2003 14:18, Don Sanders wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday 07 March 2003 19:48, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Freitag, 7. M=E4rz 2003 05:51, Don Sanders wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Thursday 06 March 2003 16:14, Seth Kurtzberg
>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello list(s)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I've been reading messages about kontact, and I
> > > > > > > > > > > wanted to try it, so I pulled the latest from CVS
> > > > > > > > > > > and built it. That gives me a kontact directory,
> > > > > > > > > > > but I don't find an executable named kontact. Is
> > > > > > > > > > > there something else to build, or does the
> > > > > > > > > > > executable have a different name?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > For a version of Kontact that is known to work and
> > > > > > > > > > be stable I suggest using the
> > > > > > > > > > kdepim-kontact-0.2.1.tgz package on the Kontact
> > > > > > > > > > website.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It isn't complete :-) You need to move the docs over
> > > > > > > > > to the kdepim package for the apps that got moved
> > > > > > > > > there too. Don, can you package up a new version that
> > > > > > > > > does that ? People asked me to provide debian
> > > > > > > > > packages for my repository so I gave it a try and hit
> > > > > > > > > that bug.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'll look into that for the next package due at the end
> > > > > > > > of the month. If people want the doc sooner I guess
> > > > > > > > some packager will have to manually mv it for now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > These releases are intended to stable and usable but
> > > > > > > > not complete. Even if/when the doc is included it will
> > > > > > > > still be out of date as it won't cover all the new
> > > > > > > > features.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding being stable - I tried it and lost all of my
> > > > > > > addressbook contacts
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I experienced a bug in HEAD that did that but not
> > > > > > kontact.2.1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you reproduce it?
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I'm lacking the time to do that currently.
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah my first guess would be that you're running kontact.2.1
> > > > > against HEAD kdelibs, and that there's a change of format
> > > > > between HEAD and the KDE_3_1_BRANCH, and that this change is
> > > > > backwards but not forwards compatible.
> > > >
> > > > No, I used the branch for my system and then installing kontact
> > > > after compiling it against the branch in a chroot, so I made
> > > > sure I don't have any stuff from HEAD around in my build
> > > > systems.
> > >
> > > And you don't experience this when running KAddressBook from the
> > > KDE_3_1_BRANCH? That would be surprising as KAddressBook from
> > > kontact.0.2.1 and the KDE_3_1_BRANCH are very similar.
> >
> > No, never had any problems with the branch one. It's probably that
> > the addressbook on a crash (which doesn't happen on the branch)
>
> Sorry are you saying the kontact release crashes and the branch
> doesn't? Any backtrace?

Nope, sorry. Should have taken care of that immediately but I was showing o=
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KDE at that moment *mumble*

>
> > looses all its data.
>
> Can you reproducibly cause KAddressBook to crash and lose all its
> data? Either from the branch or from the kontact package?
I only experienced that with the kontact package, never with the version in=
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the brach. KAddressbook has alwasy been 100% stable and even more I was=20
astonished that I lost all my data.=20

> > I think it's also a misbehavior that it
> > doesn't do autosaving if you change contacts...
>
> KAddressBook when used as a part in Kontact should automatically save
> contacts on exit of Kontact, I just verified this. KAddressBook
> standalone from both the branch and the kontact package should prompt
> for saving on exit. It might be nice to use a timer to auto save the
> data but I don't think it would be productive to discuss this issue
> further at this time.
Maybe it's exactly the autosave feature that misbehaved. If the crash happe=
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during that function your data is lost entirely. Autosaving should always=20
work in a backup way, so one copy is always safe.
>
> If the 3.1 release works and the kontact version doesn't it should be
> easy pinpoint the location of any bug. This is because the kontact
> version of kaddressbook and the branch are almost identical and the
> differences can easily be backed out.
>
> If possible can you see if KAddressBook standalone from the kontact
> package behaves differently from the 3.1 release. If so can you apply
> the attached patch to the kontact package and see if the problem
> persists?
No, I can't because I lack the time as already pointed out. I'm having load=
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unfortunately.

>
> BTW it's probably a good to double check that any problem occurs in
> KAddressBook standalone from the kontact package and not in the 3.1
> release.
As Kontact will be in KDE 3.2 it's not the most urgent matter for me right=
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now. When we'll have more time starting to move packaging snapshots from HE=
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I guess there'll be more users reporting problems by then. Right now the KD=
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3.1.1 release is way more important than packaging a kontact development=20
snapshot, sorry.

Ralf
>
> Thanks,
> Don.

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