[kplato] Look 'n Field

[Frédéric Lambert]

Okay I tried one of the three method to implement Charts:
1) flakes 2) KPlotWidget 3) QGraphicsView

So I tried the 2) tonight, and I commit a little view.

I looked at the possibilities and it's better than before.

But we will need to add some functionnalities :
- Accept other things like float on the Axis.
- Take away the grid and only show bottom and left Axis
- Fix anti-aliaising (don't show black axis with white background)
- We can choose to display points or line, we have to show the two in the
same time.
  ( to display intersection between two curves and allow tooltips)
- Enable a curve with two colors (red and green for exemple) in order to
show quickly "good"and "bad" curve parts.
- etc

As soon as i have free time, i'll take a look at the Qt options we talked
before.
( docs widgets, qsplitter, etc..)

Then, can I know on what your working now Dag to evoid doing the same thing
?

Thanks, Cu later!

PS : To get the previous chart view, just edit the chartpanel.cpp.

2008/6/22 Dag Andersen <danders at get2net.dk>:

> Lørdag 21 juni 2008 18:09 skrev Frédéric Lambert:
> > Hi !
> >
> > This is my first feelings when I Open KPlato today (Normal project) after
> > months.
> First feelings are always valuable :)
> >
> > - 4 vertical windows : it's too too much i think.
> > - Where am i ?
> Hmm, these are dockers, aren't they?
> I haven't had time yet to look at how to not load (or not show) dockers at
> startup. The koffice libs loads all dockers by default for all apps, but
> since kplato doesn't use them I want to avoid that.
>
> (The dockers state is saved in your personal settigs, so if you close those
> you don't want (which are all except the view selctor) they won't show up
> next time you start kplato.)
> >
> > I really think the window displayed when user open new project should be
> a
> > help windows. It would tell user which windows do what and where he has
> to
> > start.
> Yes, that would be nice!
> > Even if user is a "always user" of project managment software, you
> > shouldn't let him open on Task Editor.
> Hmmm, I don't know a better place (if not a help window) when starting a
> new
> project.
> Note that some context info is saved with the project file, so when opening
> a
> project it will open in the view that was active when the project was
> saved.
> >
> > This is what i found, no matter the order :
> >
> > Ressources : Add group, Add Resources : Fred. Add Resources : Bobby.
> > I Edit the first Ressource : Fred and his details are on the right
> window.
> > Ok. I edit the second and i haven't the details on the right under the
> > first ressource, why ? I think it's a bug.
> Yes, it's a bug, haven't seen it before so it must be something fairly new.
> If you collapse/expand the group things will appear.
> I'll have a look at it.
> >
> > Work & Vacation :
> > - Left window souldn't has such vertical length.
> > I think Calendar should take all the width and add some colors.
> >
> > Scale windows :
> > - Gantt windows aren't well scaled : % Completed and Start Time to large
> > - Task by ressource : Type too large.
> > - Work and vacation : timezone too large.
> > - Task Status and Task Execution : Name too large.
> > - Ressource assignments : Name too small
> > - Task by ressources : Name and Tasks too small
> This is because the window is split into two using a QSplitter which by
> deflt
> devides the window into 2 equally large parts.
> >
> > Dependencies :
> >
> > Dependencies List :
> > - windows aren't in the good order.
> > First : Tasks , Second : Available , Third: Results ?
> > Because we must select right, then left, and show in the middle ?
> Yes, maybe, but I didn't find that very intuitive either because we are
> working with tasks (sucessors) and their predecessor tasks. My idea was to
> have the predecessors to the left the get it organized like
> predecessor->dependency->successor
> but this goes (like you point out) aginst the more common approach to
> select
> someting on the left side and get the result on the right side. I have no
> strong feelings about it, any organization (that works) is fine with me :)
> > Title are not very explicit.
> True
> > Middle window has no title : what does it show ?
> Dependencies ;)
> Well, Parent (task), Type of dependency and Lag
> >
> > - Can't we merge the two Dependencies windows to be sure of what we do?
> > Up : List, Down : Graphic ; whith the possibility to show graphics in the
> > full window. At least in the Dependencies List,  a preview gantt windows
> > focus on the task selected.
> Personnaly I would put my time into the graphics view because I would
> choose
> to work that way most of the time, and I won't have time for both.
> I think the main things missing are:
> - Show selectable areas on the task items
> - Show the task structure
> - Show more info (like WBS code) for each task. (configurable)
> - Make it possible to Expand/Collapse summary tasks
> - Add a way to edit all dependencies for a task (new dialog)
> - Make it possible to do it all with keyboard only
> >
> > -when adding a new Task (Task Editor), Why can't we choose to start a
> task
> > before, After and same time than the X task (Already added) ?
> Hmm, don't know exactly what you mean.
> In general, you have to calculate a project schedule (in the schedule
> editor)
> to get a start time for a task. You could of course set a (start)
> constraint
> but still you have to schedule.
> >
> > General :
> > - Calendar widget in Timezone Editor don't show all dates number.
> Do you mean the dialog you open with context menu? In that case it's a bug
> somewhere that paints dates in white. The reason I haven't fixed it is
> time,
> and I'm not sure wether to keep the dialog or not.
> > - Why hide all the informations like in Task Status, Resource assignemts,
> > Task by resources and Schedule : Result ?
> You mean why items are not expanded by default?
> Well, that's the way qt behaves by default ;)
> >
> > Finaly i think that the most important thing to do is to add a sentence
>  on
> > the top of each window or in the bar in the bottom of KPlato. to :
> > 1) Say what current window show and 2) how use it.
> > Exemple : i didn't notice we could link task in the depencies graphics
> > until moving on a very tiny part of a task rectangle.
> (This editor have only the bare bones functionallity yet.)
> > Add comment in bottom would be nice.
> What about adding a "What's this" to the view selector. Tooltip is allready
> there.
> In general there should be a *lot* of "What's this" added all over the
> place.
> Also tooltips are missing in alot of places and some of those present isn't
> necessary very good.
> >
> > I think kplato is really powerfull and it diserve to be more user
> friendly,
> > I think it will conqueer more people and evoid to afraid them when they
> > open KPlato for the first time.
> Agree, I'm not particularly good at usability so comments are always
> wellcome.
> If somebody would also implement it, I would be absolutly thrilled.
> >
> > I'm done for now.
> >
> > Please tell me what you wanna modify and i'll do.
> Still think you should do the chart first.
> >
> > Fred.
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