[KPhotoAlbum] Cataloging workflow

Angel Lopez anglopm at gmail.com
Wed May 1 15:25:58 BST 2019

El mar., 30 abr. 2019 a las 23:44, Johannes Zarl-Zierl (<
johannes at zarl-zierl.at>) escribió:

> Hi Angel,

Hi Johannes,

> Am Dienstag, 30. April 2019, 16:30:08 CEST schrieb Angel Lopez:
> > Copy photographs to computer, in direfferent folders:
> >
> > /Photographs/
> > /Photographs/2018/
> >   /Photographs/2018/2018-01-01_New Year
> >   /Photographs/2018/2018-02-14_Ana Bithday
> >  ...
> > /Photographs/2019 /
> >   /Photographs/2019/2019-03-19_Trip to Rusia
> >  ...
> >
> > And kphotoalbum database is inside /Photographs.
> So far, so good. I guess this is quite a common way of organizing files on
> disk. My own setup is not very different.
> > The first 4 years of use, I tagged pictures with People, Places,
> Events...
> > But nowadays What I were doing was to use the Tokens for select pictures
> to
> > keep which ones to delete, which ones to send to a friend...
> Tagging pictures is quite a time consuming task, and it can be frustrating
> to
> fall behind with it.
> Depending on your personality, one of several approaches to this problem
> might
> help:
> a. Let the images pile up until you have the energy to tag them. When the
> pile
> of untagged images gets too big, tag all photos with a "TODO" tag and mark
> them as tagged.
> b. Do some basic tagging (Event, Location, ...) right away. Optionally
> mark
> the best few images as "selection" and do full tagging on those (People,
> Keywords)
> You might say that solution "a" is not a real solution, but at least it is
> a
> way to manage expectations and to keep the level of frustration low.
> Generally
> speaking, I would say that approach "b" is a better approach, but whatever
> works for you is right.

haha, I will try option "b".  I'm starting from 2019 and will go back
through my collection.

> > Now I started to catalog all of them, But I would like to now what
> > categories and keywords do other people use. I now this is not a problem
> > with a single solution, but some tips would be useful.
> Basically, my advice to you is: what things do you search for? You've been
> using kphotoalbum for a long time: did you ever wish to search for some
> specific category or tag?
> These two questions should be a good guide whether something is a good tag
> for
> your usage of kphotoalbum.

I see, then I realize that I do not need very complicated tags, because,
people and places (date is always included) are the more important one for

> > Yesterday, I tagged a some pictures with Keyword="river", and several
> > photographs later, I started to tag a set of photographs of a trip to a
> > river source, where some of them do not have the river itself in the
> > photograph. So, how to deal with this?
> Personally, I encounter this problem most often when tagging people: is a
> person in the image if the face is clearly visible, or only if the person
> is
> the focus of the image, or even when the person is only partially visible?

That's right. And it is also for some people that appear only once every
hundred (probably thousands) of shots, like friends from work, in Christmas
party. Here the answer should be do not tag people , but only tag as the
name of the company...

> This is a genuinely hard problem. You might want to take a two-pass
> approach
> and go over your images a second time, with the goal of making tags
> consistent. For some categories this may be worthwhile, for others it may
> be a
> waste of time.
> One thing to keep in mind, though: Once you found *some* river image of
> your
> trip, it is usually easy to find more images of the same trip. So you
> don't
> have to be perfect all the time...
Mmm. Ok, I get the point, that if I remember an old photograph close to a
river, it could be easier if I tag all photographs in the trip as "river",
so I could find all in the future and get the right one in little time.

> > How do you use label, and descriptions fields?
> Personally, I use the description field sparingly, basically for context
> that
> I know I would not remember in ten years time. Also, I misuse it as a way
> to
> add information to tags: I have blanket-tags for "animal" and "plant", and
> use
> the description field to write the species name of the animal or plant.
> If I were serious about tagging animals or plants, the superior approach
> would
> be to have separate tags for each species of animal or plant, though.

Ok. As I put a small description in the folder containing the photographs
for each date, I could leave it blank, or write the same information in the
label or description box.

> > I found this place:
> > https://lightroom-keyword-list-project.blogspot.com/p/get-list.html
> > But I found that list really huge.
> Looking at such a list for inspiration can be a good starting point. In
> the
> end the only thing that matters is your individual needs, though.
> E.g. my own categories are:
> Keywords
> Places
> People
> Source (copyright holder)
> Status (untagged, done, todo, published, ...)
> Film ID (to find the negative strips of analog images)
> Within the keywords category, I always tag the event/topic/trip title
> (this
> should really be done as a separate "Events" category but hindsight is
> 20:20).
> Apart from this, it is quite a random assortment of tags, somewhat
> structured
> by using tag groups. It works for me, but I could not give you any advice
> on
> what works for you...
> I also use ratings, but unfortunately I'm not very consistent about it...

Thank you very much for your explanation and your time. I will try to keep
it simple.
Your Status category seems useful.  I will add it. The same, it would be
good having ratings, at least 4 or 5 stars so they could be the ones chosen
for prints or just the ones I would like to show.

> > As a side question, I could not find an option fix the Zoom level while
> > viewing images. Could be a nice feature to compare to or three
> photographs
> > in a series for the sharpest of them. Is this possible?
> Not really. You can change the default image size / zoom level in the
> settings
> (Full viewer size, Natural image size, Natural image size if <= viewer
> size).
> Maybe this is enough for you?

As I wirte to Joe before, I have found that the program "qeeqie" if very
helpful with that. I will try to use it and keep KPA only for the original
purpose (Which it does extremely well !!)

> Cheers,
>   Johannes
Thank you again.


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