[KPhotoAlbum] Sorting several folders

Vitus Jensen vjensen at gmx.de
Mon Jan 5 00:04:04 GMT 2009


Am Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:54:21 +0100 schrieb Jan Kundrát:

> Vitus Jensen wrote:
>> I'm working with some thousand photos from a trip together with a
>> friend.  I've used 2 folders "my" and "his", his are a little special
>> as they were taken by an analog camera and digitized later (so EXIF
>> dates aren't correct).  Everything is tagged "iceland" and should be
>> ordered chronologically when selected by location, so I editied date
>> infos via Ctrl-1.  Worked well in the beginning but now I moved some
>> photos by hand for a slide show and just noticed that all his photos
>> are again at the end (but Ctrl-1 is still "correct") :-(
>> 
>> Which timestamps are used to sort (EXIF has still the incorrect date)?
> 
> KPhotoAlbum has its own database of image dates, and that's what you see
> when you press Ctrl+1. It has two fields for dates, the start_date and
> the end_date. This is handy for implementing a "fuzzy-dating" where you
> don't remember the date exactly, like "this image is from mid-1999".

OK.

> When you import images into KPA, this database is populated from the
> information embedded in the file [1]. From that moment on, the record in
> database lives independently from any in-file info -- when you adjust
> any of the in-file properties like EXIF timestamps using a third-party
> tool, KPA won't notice that [2].

Thank you for clarifying.

> On the other hand, pressing Ctrl+1 opens the annotation dialog in which
> you manipulate items in the KPA database. Anything you do here won't be
> written back to the image files [3].
> 
>> And how do I fix this?  If I resort all files the photos moved by hand
>> (and AVIs) would again need this job.  Just sorting his photos didn't
>> change anything.
> 
> Sorting is yet another different thing. Each image in KPA has its
> sequence number. View->Sort selected simply takes *current selection*
> and shuffles it so that the oldest images are at the beginning. Images
> that are not selectede are left intact. What you probably did was
> selecting just some images (perhaps those taken by you or taken by your
> friend) and running the sort thing on top of them. As you were sorting a
> sequence with holes in it, you ended up with wrong order. To fix it,
> simply select images from you and your friend *at once* and sort them by
> View -> Sort...

I had nearly everything edited (20 timestamps were missing) and sorted 
(selected by location "iceland", view preview, mark all, sort).  Then I 
started on a SUBSET of all files (location "iceland", keyword "diashow") 
and moved them around to make a better show, removed the keyword 
"diashow" from some photos etc.  During this process I noticed that all 
"his" photos were at the end.  Is manually sorting a Bad Thing in this 
view?

I will resort everything from location "iceland" and need a hint how to 
modify slideshow order.  Should I better use fake timestamps to move 
photos?



And completely different but related to sorting: when you have your 
database of photos complete with timestamps etc and some years later get 
some additional OLD photos with timestamps (say you and your girlfriend 
move together), import them and use a keyword based selection on them in 
which order will they be displayed?  In import order??

Vitus

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Vitus Jensen, Hannover, Germany, Earth, Milky Way, Universe (current)




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