[KimDaBa] Re: Search bar & CategoryEditor & Quick tagging (following)

[Jesper K. Pedersen]

On Wednesday 01 December 2004 21:35, Jean-Michel FAYARD wrote:
| Me again, sorry for the spam ;-)
| ~= ten days ago, I wrote this :
|
|
| <===== ACT I =====>
| * Has someone noticed the nice idea that William Holland made
| while we were smiling at a joke from Jesper ?
|
| > Secondly, as I look through the images I would like to be able to tag
| > them in an 'ultra quick way' eg typing 't' or something, so that I can
| > select the tagged ones later, and then perform some operation (setting
| > key words, or in my case emailing them)
|
| I didn´t understand at first, but that´s a rich idea : that would be
| the viewer/slideshow version of "Images -> Limit view to selected".
|
| Say I am watching my 300 pictures of my trip in the USA, and while
| that slideshow I see that :
| - this (picture #4 in the slideshow) picture is junk, delete it
| - this one (#6) is wonderful, I need print them
| - those are (#8, #11, #15) wonderful too
| - Oh, here (#120) and there (#125) I forget someone on the picture. I
| have to correct that
| - ... whatever else
|
| In Kimdaba you can stop the slideshow and change that and then restart
| the slideshow each time. But William´s suggestion is far better, you
| just select
| 'Right Click -> Mark picture as selected' or, more quickly, just type ´M´
| and let the slideshow continue.
| When the slideshow ends or when you quit the viewer, the thumbnails
| view shows only #4, #6, #8, #11, #15, #20 and #25 and you can do your
| changes from there, all at one time.
| </=========>
|
| Probably a bad idea since nobody seemed to like it
| Then I saw this entry in the todo list :
|
|
| <===== ACT II =====>
| - Add a way to mark images using a single key stroke, something like:
|   select a bunch of images, start the viewer in the viewer SPACE set some
|   options for the image, and go to the next image, while RET just goes to
| the next image. (That way you can easily go through hundreds of images
| putting the keyword "print", and later search for keyword print for sending
| images to printer)
|   This could of course be extended so you could set keywords with
|   different key bindings (which should be configurable):
|   (c) - image is from Copenhagen
|   (l) - image is from Las Vegas.
|
|
| Sounds nice, huh ? But on the next line, Jesper noted :
|
|          I doubt that extension will be very useful tho.
|
| He´s right, because when you fire your viewer and start a slideshow,
| two minutes after that, you need those handy "c" and "i" shortcuts,
| one of those two things will happens :
|
|   - you don´t have yet defined those shortcuts. So you want to do
|     "Settings -> Configure Kimdaba", but your girlfriend says
|     "Let´s just see the pictures for now, you will do that after"
|     with a so lovely smile that you can not contradict her
|
|   - you have already define the shortcut, but one month ago.
|      Too bad, you already forget it, or didn´t remember that you
|      changed this shortcut to means another property and do
|      a mistake ;-)
|
| So Jesper is right, that is a second bad idea
|
| </=========>
|
|
| <===== ACT III ====>
| Now, let´s try to combine those two bad ideas to make a good one ;-)
| You start the slideshow, you press like before (example from Jesper)
|   (c) - image is from 'C'openhagen
|   (l) - image is from 'L'as vegas.
| but you can also press in my example :
|   (p) - there is a 'P'erson missing on this one
|   (j)  - this picture is 'J'unk, delete it
|
|
| The point is that (like in my idea)
|
| 1) YOU DID NOT CONFIGURE THAT BEFORE (and don´t have to),
|   those shortcut are transparent for Kimdaba, they are just keystroke that
|   are not binded yet with another action (everything except I D S Q
| for now), and
|   they mean whatever I want them to mean at this moment.
| 2) Those shortcuts don´t actually do anything like setting property
| Copenhagen for the image. Instead they sort out your pictures by setting a
| property    "Key C" for a new temporary category "Shortcuts pressed".
|
|    That is, after your slideshow, you are in a browser looking like this :
|      |---------------------|---------------|
|      | Shortcuts pressed   |  Count        |
|      |---------------------|---------------|
|      | Key C               |  10   images  |
|      | Key L               |  4    images  |
|      | Key P               |  3    images  |
|      | Key J               |  25   images  |
|      |---------------------|---------------|
|
| Since the shortcut does nothing, it´s not bad if you press a key by
| mistake, just go back in the browser and that´s it.
| But if you take our example, you just have to do now :
|
|  	Click on "Key C"
| 	Ctrl-a, Ctrl-2, Type Copenhagen, Enter
| 	Go back in the browser
| 	Click on "Key P" (means 'Persons' in your head)
| 	Ctrl-a, You have every pictures where a person was missing,
|               Ctrl-1, type the names, Enter
| 	Go back in the browser
| 	Ctrl-a, Deselect the second one (not that bad after all !),
|               Edit->Delete selected
|
| Did I lost everybody, or does that sounds useful ?
| </=========>
|
| PS: I actually tried to implement this, but I´m just not good enough
| at Qt/KDE programming yet :(
This does sound like a very good idea to me. I thought of something like the 
following:

In the viewer press P, and the Persons line edit+listbox shows up in the 
viewer, ready for specifying a person.

I do actually like yours better (I think), because if for nothing else it is 
less intrusive in your viewing. (Yeah I know that situation with the 
girlfriend saying: "don't play around with KimDaBa now, just lets see those 
images" ;-)

Besides your idea has another advantages, namely being able to mark images for 
say printing with just one key stroke - with my idea you would need to press 
k (for keywords), p (for selecting the item printing from this list box, 
assuming it is at the top), Enter (for hiding the listbox again).

I'm pretty tired now, but your idea does indeed sounds good.
As you might all have noticed, I haven't done a lot of KimDaBa work lately, 
partly due to our movement a few month ago, and partly due to a lot of work. 
Anyway, I've taken tomorrow completely off, and might even leave early today, 
so lets see, maybe your idea is implemented before the weekend is over ;-)

Cheers
Jesper.

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