[konsole] [Bug 499983] Konsole's full screen feature is misleading as it's not really full screen

John bugzilla_noreply at kde.org
Thu Feb 13 18:19:07 GMT 2025


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499983

--- Comment #5 from John <ilikefoss at waterisgone.com> ---
Of course Kate, Kdenlive, Krita still show the tool / menu bar even when they
are "full screen" as they are mostly productivity tools are are extremely
rarely used to just look at things with no interaction.
Also there's a limit on how many shortcuts a person can remember and for the
hundreds of things they can do, buttons and menus are still needed, even in
full screen mode.

I understand that different programs have different ways of representing full
screen, but Konsole's way of doing it sucks when you want to be fully immersed
into the program / tool that is running in the terminal or you, or you're
running a screensaver like the case where I noticed the problem.
Or you just want to see some statistics and nothing else.
A tool / menu bar with options and buttons doesn't help much when you're in
reading / viewing mode.
There's also the problem of consistency, as we humans with our limited minds
cannot possibly remember all different shortcuts for so many different DEs,
OSes, programs and most people can barely remember just F11, so it would be
nice if all would use the same shortcut and not require yet another one to
"hide" the menu so you finally have the real full screen.
But I guess consistency is not a thing that is so valued here.
As for OLED screen, I guess too few people have them now to care about them and
the burn-ins.
Too bad Plasma is so used on so many devices and even on LTS distros that will
get into a future where more OLED screens are available.

Anyway, if you wanted to make the consistency better, help OLED screens and
find a middle way between power users and new users, you could've made
Konsole's full screen mode not have any permanent tool / menu bar or scroll bar
and display them on demand like:
- Mouse touching the top edge: Show tool / menu bar (like Gwenview and
Firefox), with or without a title bar depending if the tool bar has an exit
full screen button.
- Mouse touching the right edge: Show scroll bar.

Additionally, second fail-safe option for new users: Show "Exit full screen" in
the contextual (right-click) menu.
Putting more burden on the power users so that the new users have absolutely
the most dumbed-down / easy interface for them is not nice.

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