[konsole] [Bug 499983] Konsole's full screen feature is misleading as it's not really full screen

[John]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499983

John <ilikefoss at waterisgone.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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         Resolution|INTENTIONAL                 |---
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
     Ever confirmed|0                           |1

--- Comment #3 from John <ilikefoss at waterisgone.com> ---
(In reply to tcanabrava from comment #2)
> That's fullscreen - there's no titlebar, and the application has the
> entirety of the screen.
> you can also remove the menubar if you want with ctrl + shift + m.
> We do not hide toolbars or menubars when fullscreen is on as this could be
> useful for people that got there without knowing how to get back.

That's not full screen!
I want the content to be full screen, not to just remove the title bar and then
call that full screen.
People are making thing full screen to see the content full screen, not
everything under the title bar.

Since it's misleading I think you should at least call it something else, like
"Remove title bar" or "Toggle title bar" as these would be more accurate.
And if you decided to force everyone to experience this behavior, no matter if
they are power users or not, how come you didn't apply the same mentality to
Gwenview too, which actually has real full screen instead of just removing the
title bar?
What's the difference, what gives?
Did you decided that people wanting to see pictures in full screen would be too
annoyed from an always visible tool / menu bar so it's better to not annoy
them?
Same with Haruna video player that also has the real deal full screen, there
people should not be annoyed with things always visible in full screen?

How come that the idea of people getting into full screen and not knowing how
to get back is not a problem for Gwenview, Haruna, VLC, Firefox, Thorium and
probably other programs, but all of a sudden if they make the terminal emulator
full screen it's a problem?
How many people actually enter the full screen by pressing F11 or by using the
menu item and in the next minutes they forgot how they did that?
How many people forget that ALT+TAB still exists?
How many people forget that the Super key still exists and that will show the
panel always?

I don't think it's normal that people who remember how they got into some
situation + people that know ALT+TAB gets them out + people that know Super
shows the panel + power users should be punished for a few people that are new
at this.

As a power user I'm more and more annoyed with this mentality where changes are
done or not done for the sake of  noobs and new people that "might" get into
some trouble!
How about stop making assumptions on the memory capability or the computer
skills proficiency of a person and just ask the user about its level instead of
making stuff worse for power users for the sake of new users or the reverse?
I don't find if fair that I have to jump through hoops by remembering more
shortcuts and waste time for doing them just because somebody is able to
install Linux + Plasma + Enter full screen in Firefox and the terminal with the
same F11 shortcut, but that person might forget or not know how to get out of
it.

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