[Konsole-devel] Konsole + DCOP + DBus

[Robert Knight]

> If some of the upgrades out there continue to maintain kde 3.5, reinstating the dcop code in konsole
> might allow everyone that already scripted konsole,

If you run the KDE 3 version of Konsole and dcopserver then you'll
have DCop support.  KDE 4 doesn't have dcop libraries as far as I know
so there is no such option as 'reinstating the dcop code' I'm afraid.
Either way, implementing DBus support won't be that difficult, it just
wasn't a high priority for the KDE 4.0 and 4.1 releases.

@Arno

Thanks for that - I'll review as soon as I can.

Regards,
Robert.

2008/12/9 Tom K. <tomkcpr at rogers.com>:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Apolagies, I couldn't really confirm some information so didn't mention this
> before, though I too thought KDE 4 no longer uses dcop server.
>
> Appears I have the best of both worlds following the Fedora 8 to Fedora 9
> upgrade I did earlier through yum, which may or may not be the case for
> others.  kde 3.5 isn't removed but kde 4 is added.  Now I've upgraded to
> Fedora 10, and it upgraded the kde 3.5 packages as well as the kde 4 ones.
> This gives me the option to run /usr/bin/kdeinit (kde 3.5) which reinstates
> the dcopserver.  I'm not sure if this is the case for others, however,
> allows me to continue to script the other apps that continue to rely on the
> dcopserver.  Further, if apps that are scripted for the dcopserver, can't
> find it, but want it, they appear to reinstate their own copy using
> /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca.
>
> Once I run /usr/bin/kdeinit, alot of problems vanished.  kdevelop, k3b,
> kaffeine amongst others now connect to the dcop server fine.  I can of
> course continue to then script any of the ones that used dcop as before.
>
> Hence my suggestion.  If some of the upgrades out there continue to maintain
> kde 3.5, reinstating the dcop code in konsole might allow everyone that
> already scripted konsole, their functionality again, while dbus gains
> momentum.
>
> I haven't tried this but at some point I'll look into pushing an older
> konsole version into my system and yanking out the latest one to see if I
> can get dcop functionality again ( just for fun  :)   )
>
> Kind Regards,
> Tom
>
> Robert Knight wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Would reenabling the old dcop code be easier and provide for some backwards
> compatability
> for everyone who has already scripted their konsole using the old dcop
> interface while the dbus code is being worked on?
>
>
> There is no DCOP support in KDE 4 as far as I am aware so that would
> unfortunately be out of the question.
> I am not actively working on D-Bus support at the moment although I
> would be happy to help anyone who
> wishes to implement it.
>
> Regards,
> Robert.
>
> 2008/12/4 Scott Isaac <scottgisaac at gmail.com>:
>
>
> donot care
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Tom K. <tomkcpr at rogers.com> wrote:
>
>
> Has the old code for accessing DCOP been removed from current Konsole
> code?  The old change log
>
> http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog2_2_2to3_0.php
>
> has
>
> Konsole: DCOP interface, sets environment variables KONSOLE_DCOP &
> KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION
>
>
> however no mention that this has been removed.  Checking out and looking
> through svn, appears the old DCOP code has been removed.
>
> Reenabling the dcop server after upgrading to Fedora 9 and KDE 4.x, I do
> notice some of the old apps connect to it now but konsole does not
> suggesting the old code for DCOP has been removed from konsole.  Some
> things I've tried:
>
> declare -x KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION="DCOPRef("`ps ax|grep
> /usr/bin/konsole|egrep -v grep|awk '{ print "konsole-"$1
> }'`",session-"`echo $KONSOLE_DBUS_SESSION|sed -e "s/[^0-9]//g"`")"
>
> declare -x KONSOLE_DCOP="DCOPRef("`ps ax|grep /usr/bin/konsole|egrep -v
> grep|awk '{ print "konsole-"$1 }'`",konsole)"
>
> export KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION KONSOLE_DCOP
>
> yielding
>
> KONSOLE_DCOP=DCOPRef(konsole-2935,konsole)
> KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION=DCOPRef(konsole-2935,session-6)
>
> but of course since these entries no longer appear in the code, the
> above doesn't work and produced one of:
>
> call failed
> object not accessible
>
> I'm aware others are looking to write code for dbus.  Would reenabling
> the old dcop code be easier and provide for some backwards compatability
> for everyone who has already scripted their konsole using the old dcop
> interface while the dbus code is being worked on?  Thoughts?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Tom
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