5.1.3 is better than 5.2.1

[Jack]

On 2025.11.05 09:44, Bill Gee via KMyMoney wrote:
> Now that I have 5.2.1 courtesy of Fedora 42 to 43 upgrade, I have to  
> say ...  FAIL!!!
> 
> Gimme back 5.1!!
The first thing I'll point out is that almost everything you are  
complaining about works perfectly well for most users.  What we need to  
do is figure out why things are not working correctly for you.  It  
seems unlikely the problems are inherent in the KMyMoney code, so we  
need to dig deeper.

> 1) When I click on the Accounts icon on the left side, it gives me a  
> list of Liability, Asset and Favorite.  Single-clicking the arrow  
> beside any of these does nothing (behavior change - it used to open  
> the sublist).
For me (Gentoo Linux) clicking the arrow does expand the list of that  
type of account, as it has always done.

> Double-clicking on any of the three entries opens Liability and shows  
> me the one credit card account.  Click or double-clicking on that  
> account closes the sublist (behavior change - it used to take me to  
> the ledger for that account).
For me, double clicking opens that list, same as clicking the arrow.
Do you have more Liability accounts than just that Credit Card, or is  
that the only one?
For me, single clicking any account simply selects it (and enables the  
right click context menu.)  Double clicking takes me to the ledger for  
that account

> 2) So how do I get to the account ledgers now?  The only way I have  
> found is to go to the Institutions icon, open the institution and  
> double-click the account.
While I agree you should not need to do this, you can go to the Ledgers  
View (click the Ledgers icon on the left.)  Then click the  "+" near  
the top.  This will open a drop-down where you can select any account.

> 3) Click on the Categories icon on the left.  It gives me Expenses  
> and Income.  Clicking or double-clicking on either does nothing.   
> (behavior change - It used to open a sublist.)
This continues to behave for me the same as the accounts and  
institutions views.

> Update - I waited several minutes.  Now double-clicking on either  
> Expense or Income will open a sublist under Expense.  Clicking or  
> double-clicking any item on the sublist closes the sublist.
Still seems odd - single clicking should just select the clicked item.   
Double clicking a grouping entry should expand or contract its  
sublist.  Double clicking an item (Account or Category or ...) should  
open that item in the Ledger.

> 4) Account ledgers now have a column for Details.  I don't want that  
> column.  It just clutters things up.  I can shrink the column (which  
> takes 15 to 20 seconds) but cannot turn it off.
Apparently not (you could file a wishlist bug to allow deselecting  
it.)  Oddly, I can adjust the width of other columns, but not the  
Detail column.  It seems to me that the Detail column just gets the  
leftover width after all the other columns are displayed.  That is  
definitely an odd behavior.

> I have not looked any further.  This is unusable, a complete fail.  I  
> cannot go back because Fedora does not offer a 5.1 package for F43.  
> Flatpacks are not acceptable.  I have had far too many problems with  
> them.  Same with snaps.  An appimage might be OK if one were offered.

Why are flatpaks not acceptable?  At least try one for testing to see  
if the problems appear there also.  You can also try (if only for  
testing) an Appimage or Snap version.

These fails are not (or at least not entirely) in the code for  
KMyMoney, as many other users are not having the same problems.  I'm  
still not sure where or why they show up for you.  One thing you can to  
is check your System Settings application to see if there are any  
setting which might confuse single vs. double clicking the mouse.  (No,  
I do not expect anything here, but it's worth checking.)  I might als  
post on a Fedora forum or list, to see if any other Fedora users are  
seeing the same issues.  One additional question - are you using a full  
KDE Plasma desktop, or only those pulled in as dependencies?  If the  
latter, I wonder if teh Fedora build might be missing one or more Qt or  
KDE dependencies.  Also not likely, as I would expect a crash or error  
message.  Finally, please try launching KMyMoney from command line, and  
see if there is any useful information output to the console.

The behaviour you complain about is indeed not normal, but it may take  
some effort to identify the cause.

Jack