Problems updating mutual fund prices using Yahoo.com

[Jane Hadley]

Hi Jack - I'm a little confused by your answer. (I'm sure it's my fault and
not yours.)

I last successfully updated my mutual fund prices using Yahoo on December
7, 2018. Up until that time, I had had no problem. But when I went to
update last Friday, December 28, it had stopped working.

I can understand why updating to KMyMoney Version 5.02 from 4.6.6 would not
solve the problem of price sources and that they are two separate issues.
That is why I'm puzzled that you say "after you upgrade, if you still have
problems fetching prices, post  back here, and someone will get it working
again for you." Wouldn't it be EXPECTED that I would still have problems
fetching prices, since the issue is no source for the prices? And how could
someone "get it working again"?

You mention you're using Financial Times, but on my KMyMoney list of
possible sources the only Financial Times source listed is "Financial Times
UK Funds"   Since my investments are almost all in US mutual funds, I just
assumed that "UK Funds" would not work for me. In fact, I see nothing on my
KMyMoney list of sources that looks as if it would work.

In my research today looking for free apis for stock prices, I came across
Alpha Vantage, which provides free stock and mutual fund prices in a
simple, clear api for free. You have to sign up for an api key, but there
don't seem to be any strings attached to get the key, other than you have
to give them an email address. They claim they will not market or promote
to you with the email address. It will give you the price info in either
JSON or CSV formats. It would be great if someone who knows
programming could find a way to integrate this into KMyMoney's update
prices function. https://www.alphavantage.co/documentation/

Does KMyMoney 5.02 list of sources have one that would work for US mutual
funds?

Sorry for being a little thick on understanding this.

Jane


On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 3:47 PM Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
wrote:

> Yes, updating to Ubuntu 18.04 will definitely get you KMyMoney 5.x,
> although I'm not certain which exact version.
>
> I have no idea how you were getting useful data from Yahoo that
> recently, but I don't think those old discussions will help you.  There
> have been lots of suggestions, and I suppose people have found
> solutions that work for them - I ended up using the FT source, and even
> there, for a few securities I had to explicitly include the exchange in
> the name (appending :NYE to the symbol, for example, if it was the New
> York Stock Exchange.)  One problem is that just upgrading KMyMoney will
> not update the price sources, because of how they are stored for you,
> but after you upgrade, if you still have problems fetching prices, post
> back here, and someone will get it working again for you.
>
> Jack
>
>
> On 2018.12.31 18:34, Jane Hadley wrote:
> > The last time I successfully updated my mutual fund prices was maybe
> > two
> > weeks ago. I do vaguely recall the discussion on this mailing list of
> > problems with the Yahoo service, but I personally was not having a
> > problem
> > at the time so I didn't pay close attention. I'll go back and look for
> > those discussions. Has any substitute been found?
> >
> > I may just update to Ubuntu 18.04 and maybe the 5.02 will show up in
> > the
> > repository when I do that.
> >
> > Thanks for the response.
> >
> > Jane
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 2:38 PM Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 2018.12.31 16:34, Jane Hadley wrote:
> > > > For the last several days, I have been unable to update mutual
> > fund
> > > > prices
> > > > in KMyMoney.
> > > >
> > > > I am using KMyMoney Version 4.6.6 on my Ubuntu 16.04 desktop
> > machine.
> > > >
> > > > When I go Tools-->Prices -->Update Stock and Currency Prices and
> > then
> > > > click
> > > > on "Update All," I get the following error message:
> > > >
> > > > Fetching URL
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://query1.finance.yahoo.com/v7/finance/quote?fields=regularMarketPrice&symbols=ACRNX
> > > .
> > > > ..
> > > > Timeout on server query1.finance.yahoo.com: Socket operation
> > timed out
> > > > Unable to update price for ACRNX (empty quote data)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is anybody else having the same problem?
> > > >
> > > > Suggestions welcome.
> > > >
> > > > PS - I would like to update to KMyMoney 5.02, but when I use
> > Synaptic
> > > > to do
> > > > so, the latest version it offers is the version I have installed:
> > > > 4.6.6. I
> > > > also wouldn't mind some guidance on how to find and install a safe
> > > > version
> > > > of 5.02 with the least technical knowledge required.
> > > >
> > > I'll ask when price updates (stock OR mutual fund) last worked for
> > > you.  Yahoo stopped supporting that service quite a while ago, and
> > it
> > > was discussed significantly on this and the developers mailing
> > lists.
> > > The problem is with Yahoo, and not with KMyMoney, so there is not
> > much
> > > to do on this end, except find another source.  However, that is
> > > completely separate from updating your software.
> > >
> > > Ubuntu 16.0.4 is pretty old, but still supported until next April.
> > The
> > > main problem is that version is still using KDE4 libraries.
> > KMyMoney
> > > 5.0 and later use KDE Frameworks, which are a major update, and not
> > all
> > > bits of the version 4 libraries and version 5 frameworks can coexist
> > > (although most are OK.)  I'm a bit surprised that Ubuntu doesn't
> > have
> > > 4.8 available, which isn't 5.0, but 4.6 is very old, and has had no
> > > updates in a long time.  I don't use Ubuntu, so it's only an
> > educated
> > > guess, but I think your best bet would be to try using Clay Weber's
> > PPA
> > > (https://launchpad.net/~claydoh/+archive/ubuntu/kmymoney-testing).
> > > There are instructions on that page, and hopefully someone who has
> > done
> > > it will be able to help with any problems you have.
> > >
> > > One thing I would also ask is what exact version of Ubuntu are you
> > on?
> > > If not 16.04.5, updating to that might get you to 4.8, and I'll
> > guess
> > > that the PPA I mentioned might assume you are fully up to date with
> > > whatever version of Ubuntu you are using.
> > >
> > > Jack
> >
>
>
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