[Kmymoney] Investment:Buy Shares

[Joe W. Byers]

On 01/12/2014 02:59 PM, Allan wrote:
> On 12/01/14 18:13, Joe W. Byers wrote:
>> I was updating my investment 401K accounts for year end to file taxes
>> and noticed that for BUY Shares, only the Fee category line appears now
>> appears in the transaction entry area.  Previously, and I am not sure in
>> what version, the Interest Category line was present in the input area
>> as well.
>>
>> This is important because I work for a company that allows me to buy
>> stock each quarter at a discount / subsidy.  This is income to me on my
>> W2.  The Fee category does not accept an income category in the line
>> item, even when you split the line.  All of my previously entered
>> purchases with the discount now have the interest line hidden. I have
>> to switch the transaction type to see the hidden line.
>>
>> Why does this matter?  As I stated the discount is income and I believe
>> should appear in the income section of income and cash flow statements.
>> Allocating this to an expense category that is a credit (negative for
>> income) instead of debit does track the dollars, but not correctly.  I
>> have to explain it to may accountant every year or do a journal entry to
>> move the balance to the correct account which should not be required.
>> Either way, it is a hassle.
>>
>> Can we get the interest category  added back to the investment entry
>> screen?
>>
>> This may be related to BUG:322768 - Interest category and amount
>> disappear when new fee entered in Dividend. Also, fixes for KEditWidget
>> visibility issues.  I believe that widget visibility should be at the
>> lowest common denominator.  That is if there is any question, show it
>> and let the user choose to enter a value, even if the programmer does
>> not agree.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
> Ok, Joe. I hold my hand up here.  In fact, this goes back even 
> further, to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=276322m, June 2011.  
> Here's the first paragraph, to give you the initial issue.
>
> "The problem shows best if the transaction form is enabled, but also 
> is evident without the form.
> If an existing cash dividend transaction is selected, the form shows 
> widgets for Date, Amount, Total and Status, which is what is expected.
> If that transaction is then opened for editing, additional widgets 
> show for Security, Quantity and Price, which aren't expected for a 
> cash dividend.
> If, while the transaction is open for editing, 'Dividend' is 
> reselected, the additional fields disappear.  Similar behaviour occurs 
> for Buy transactions."
>
> This prompted a review of what action types needed what fields, partly 
> bearing in mind the new user, and trying to avoid 'visual overload'.
>
> More recently, interest was reinstated for Sell transactions, and now 
> we have a use case for Buy transactions, too.  I'm happy to respond, 
> but don't think to the extent of enabling everything on everything, 
> though.
>
> Allan
Allan,

I agree with your final comment at that enabling everything on 
everything is prudent.  But, keep in mind that some items may need to 
available on buys and sells which are real transactions on assets where 
a true cost basis in needed,  while dividends, yields, and the other 
transaction types are results of already owning an asset and do not 
impact the cost basis of the asset.

Also some of these might require reversal if there is an error by the 
investment firm.  See my Investment: Dividend reversal post.

Thanks

-- 
*Joe W. Byers*
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