[Kmymoney] Investment accounts

Sat Aug 27 09:44:27 UTC 2011

Hi,

on Saturday 27 August 2011 02:14:15 Konstantin Svist wrote:

> No problem, I'm perfectly willing to work with the devs on fixing
> issues. It's just that I was completely ignored last time.
> Hopefully we'll get the ball rolling this time

Sure we will. Sorry about not answering the last time. Investment is not my 
area of expertise so I kept my mouth shut. And since Allan answered, I thought 
the ball is already rolling. I have to admit, I did not fully read his answer.

Anyway, I can assure you that we welcome you to fix issues whereever you can. 
We are busy with our work/family lives and can only spend a fraction of our 
time to this project. Thus any helping hand is always welcome.

So in case you know why KMM is so slow, please let us know. The code certainly 
came a long way and we know that it needs adjustments in one or the other area 
- the ledger code being the most prominent. But we should discuss internals on 
the developer list kmymoney-devel at kde.org.  So please feel free to subscribe 
there. Every now and then we also discuss things on the #kmymoney channel at 
freenode.

Hope to hear again from you.

> On 08/26/2011 04:17 PM, Brendan Coupe wrote:
> > I am a fellow user and I have mapped my Schwab accounts in KMM. It's
> > not clear to me from your email, did you map the brokerage account in
> > KMM to Schwab or the investment account (the one with the buys, sells,
> > dividends ...). I know this was a little confusing to me when I first
> > setup my brokerage accounts. I know at first I renamed them so they
> > made more sense to me and that broke the link between them. That was 5
> > or 6 years ago so I don't know i that's still an issue.
> > 
> > I have struggled with my mapped brokerage accounts for many years in
> > KMM. They have different problems (that is different brokers have
> > different problems). My biggest complaint is that KMM has no way to
> > handle CDs. I find myself manually fixing different types of
> > transactions in KMM from both brokers that I have mapped to KMM. I
> > have submitted requests to fix the OFX problems and to add an
> > investment type for CDs and neither has been worked on to date.
> > 
> > In the defense of the developers, I don't think any of them use
> > Charles Schwab and they have been very busy recently converting KMM
> > from KDE3 to KDE4 and dealing with the bugs that were introduced
> > during the conversion. The person that maintains the OFX part of the
> > code lives in Europe and does not have access to any banks that use
> > OFX (I think OFX is US only). I have worked closely with him on many
> > OFX related issues as well as other issues and as long as I follow
> > through he always fixes the problem. In addition it's possible this
> > is either the fault of the broker (non standard OFX) or ofxlib, which
> > is not the responsibility of KMM. I know one of my problems that was
> > caused by a non standard OFX file was fixed within KMM so it can happen.
> > 
> > In order for them to help solve your problem they will need lots of
> > details and probably a sample OFX file or two. I have not followed
> > through on my earlier requests so at this point I blame myself that
> > they have not been worked on. If you feel ignored just re-post your
> > question, eventually someone will get back to you. I strongly urge you
> > to keep it very positive, I've seen some nasty emails to developers on
> > this list and they don't deserve it (and the person does not get any
> > help). They need our help to solve many of these problems so keep
> > trying until someone responds and then be ready to support the
> > developer. Squeaky wheel...
> > 
> > As far as fixing the code goes, if you can do that I think they would
> > gladly accept your changes once they review them. If they are done
> > well I don't think they will go to waste as long as you post them on
> > the developer mailing list. I'm willing to test them if you send me a
> > patch file. I've written scripts to download and compile from SVN and
> > it looks for patch files and applies them if it finds them so it's
> > easy for me to test patches.
> > 
> > ----
> > Brendan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Konstantin Svist <fry.kun at gmail.com
> > 
> > <mailto:fry.kun at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     It's been >4 months and still no reply to my original request. Do
> >     KMM developers read this ML?
> >     I just tried 4.6.0 and have seen no improvement in handling
> >     investment accounts. E.g. there's still no way to enter something
> >     as simple as dividend fees...
> >     
> >     Signing up for -developers ML appears restricted & there has been
> >     no reaction of any kind to bug filed on SourceForge tracker.
> >     
> >     The only remaining option seems to be to edit the code myself...
> >     which of course would only benefit me and nobody else.
> >     
> >     *sigh*
> >     
> >     On 04/12/2011 10:54 AM, Konstantin Svist wrote:
> >>     Hi,
> >>     
> >>     I'm trying to set up KMM with my Schwab brokerage account
> >>     I've added an account (type: Investment) and linked it to the
> >>     Schwab OFX (as described at the bottom of
> >>     http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings)
> >>     
> >>     Thing is, the Schwab brokerage accounts include info on
> >>     investments & cash at the same time. So, if I transfer $100 to an
> >>     empty brokerage account (actual transfer, in schwab.com
> >>     <http://schwab.com>), the account has $100 to buy securities
> >>     with. When I download the OFX into KMM, it shows up as "Buy
> >>     Shares" with Price/share: $1.00 and Shares: 100. And it doesn't
> >>     look like there's any way to mark it as a transfer.
> >>     
> >>     Furthermore, dividends (not reinvested) show up as Amount:
> >>     <actual amount> but Total: $0.00
> >>     
> >>     I'm sure that other people are using some of these features,
> >>     which basically means I had set it up wrong.
> >>     So let me have it: what's the right way to set it up?
> >>     
> >>     
> >>     Extra info (who knows, might be relevant):
> >>     * I'm using KMM 4.5.2 on KDE 4.6.1 libraries (XFCE)
> >     
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