[Kmymoney] Investment accounts

Brendan Coupe brendan at coupeware.com
Fri Aug 26 23:28:18 UTC 2011


I have mapped my Schwab account to my investment account and one thing that
does work is the monthly interest payments are automatically entered in the
brokerage account when I import the OFX file.

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Brendan





On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Jack <ostroffjh at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> On 2011.08.26 18:29, Konstantin Svist wrote:
>
>> It's been >4 months and still no reply to my original request. Do KMM
>> developers read this ML?
>>
> Yes, many of them they do.
>
>
>  I just tried 4.6.0 and have seen no improvement in handling investment
>> accounts. E.g. there's still no way to enter something as simple as dividend
>> fees...
>>
> It's actually not as simple as it may seem.  However, I'm not sure what you
> mean here.   I don't have fees on my dividends, so I have not had to do
> this, but I don't see why it can't be done.  Do you really mean you can't
> enter the fees, or they don't seem to be handled correctly when imported by
> OFX direct connect?  If it's the latter, read below.  If it's the former,
> please describe in more detail what you tried.
>
>
>  Signing up for -developers ML appears restricted & there has been no
>> reaction of any kind to bug filed on SourceForge tracker.
>>
> I know of no restrictions for joining the devel list:
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/**listinfo/kmymoney-devel<https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kmymoney-devel>but I doubt it will get you any better answers.  The main difference is that
> the answers in this list focus on helping users get their problems solved
> and that list gets into more details related to the inner workings of the
> program.  The sourceforge bug tracker is for KDE1.x and although no
> timetable has been decided, it is likely that no further development will
> happen there.  Bugs on the 4.x versions are tracked at bugs.kde.org.
>
>
>  The only remaining option seems to be to edit the code myself... which of
>> course would only benefit me and nobody else.
>>
> Not necessarily.  If you actually fix a bug, or add an enhanced feature,
> then the developers are likely to accept a patch, and I think they would
> definitely be interested in at least looking at the code.
>
>  *sigh*
>>
> One other question - have you tried entering these transactions manually,
> just to see that KMM is capable of representing them the way you want?
>  Downloading via OFX is known to have lots of problems.  Although OFX is an
> open standard, there are multiple interpretations, and there have actually
> been multiple discussions of this on the -devel list, so you might want to
> review the archives.
>
> One major issue (and it is not just with Schwab) is that they do not
> actually separate what KMM tracks separately as investment and brokerage
> accounts.  If you download the transactions into the investment account,
> those that really belong in the brokerage account will probably not be
> handled correctly.  In the future, it might be possible to move these
> transactions to the brokerage account, but it cannot be done now.  One
> approach that has been suggested is to create a security with value $1.00
> for the cash part of the account.  I have been planning to try this, but
> have not yet had the time.
>
> There is also another thing you could try in the meantime.  You could
> download the transactions, and import the files.  You can try OFX, QIF, and
> CSV.  OFX will probably do the same as the direct connect.  QIF is not
> generally desirable, but might behave differently here.  Allan has responded
> separately about trying the CSV importer (new in 4.6) and that approach CAN
> get the transactions into both the investment and brokerage accounts.
>
>
>
>> On 04/12/2011 10:54 AM, Konstantin Svist wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to set up KMM with my Schwab brokerage account
>>> I've added an account (type: Investment) and linked it to the Schwab OFX
>>> (as described at the bottom of http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/**
>>> OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_**Settings<http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings>
>>> )
>>>
>>> Thing is, the Schwab brokerage accounts include info on investments &
>>> cash at the same time. So, if I transfer $100 to an empty brokerage account
>>> (actual transfer, in schwab.com), the account has $100 to buy securities
>>> with. When I download the OFX into KMM, it shows up as "Buy Shares" with
>>> Price/share: $1.00 and Shares: 100. And it doesn't look like there's any way
>>> to mark it as a transfer.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, dividends (not reinvested) show up as Amount: <actual
>>> amount> but Total: $0.00
>>>
>>> I'm sure that other people are using some of these features, which
>>> basically means I had set it up wrong.
>>> So let me have it: what's the right way to set it up?
>>>
>>>
>>> Extra info (who knows, might be relevant):
>>> * I'm using KMM 4.5.2 on KDE 4.6.1 libraries (XFCE)
>>>
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