OFX Import Summary

[Brendan Coupe]

On 10/13/25 10:11 AM, Thomas Baumgart via KMyMoney-devel wrote:
> On Montag, 13. Oktober 2025 16:58:36 CEST Brendan Coupe via KMyMoney-devel wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/25 7:44 AM, Thomas Baumgart via KMyMoney-devel wrote:
>>> On Sonntag, 12. Oktober 2025 16:49:06 CEST Brendan Coupe via KMyMoney-devel wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/12/25 5:59 AM, Thomas Baumgart via KMyMoney-devel wrote:
>>>>> On Sonntag, 12. Oktober 2025 01:07:37 CEST Brendan Coupe via KMyMoney-devel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/11/25 10:05 AM, Thomas Baumgart via KMyMoney-devel wrote:
>>>>>>> On Freitag, 10. Oktober 2025 17:49:01 CEST Brendan Coupe via KMyMoney-devel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm running a very recently compiled version of KMM from the master branch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I import an OFX file from my bank and open it in KMM from the browser, I don't get the import summary window.
>>>>>>> That means using the Web-Connect feature, right?
>>>>>> I think of web-connect as the old way of mapping my account to the bank
>>>>>> and running update account to get the transactions or update all to get
>>>>>> updates for all mapped accounts. This has not worked with any of my
>>>>>> accounts in many years. Early enshitification in my view.
>>>>> We usually talk about three different methods:
>>>>>
>>>>> Direct-Connect: is when you map your account to an online backend and
>>>>>      directly download statments without using a browser in between.
>>>>>      Most likely, that is the one that is not working for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Web-Connect: is when you start KMyMoney and then switch to your browser
>>>>>      to download the file and select KMyMoney to directly open the
>>>>>      (temporary) file
>>>>>
>>>>> Import: when KMyMoney is not involved at all in receiving the file and
>>>>>      is instructed to read it from a (most likely) local file.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In my case, I am already running KMM, I go to my bank in Firefox and
>>>>>> download the OFX file manually. I have 2 options, Open with a program
>>>>>> (KMM) or Save file.
>>>>> KMM in this case uses "Web-Connect", Save file will later us "Import".
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the case where I open the file with KMM, the account selection
>>>>>> dialog box pops up and it gets imported. No summary when it's done. The
>>>>>> same thing happens with a QFX file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also don't see the OFX file selection dialog box, which is
>>>>>> understandable but there are settings I need to adjust for my brokerage
>>>>>> accounts. I mention it in case there may be a connection when it is skipped.
>>>>> I sort of remember that these options are available in the account edit
>>>>> dialog on the online tab. Since they are OFX specific and I don't have
>>>>> any OFX accounts, I cannot see them right now. Jack may have some more
>>>>> insights here as he uses OFX intensively.
>>>> I think you are correct but the online tab only appears when the account
>>>> is mapped. If you could make that online tab accessible for all
>>>> accounts, that would solve my brokerage import issues.
>>> Oh yes, you're right. It's only available on direct-connect and import but not
>>> on web-connect. Something I need to look into.
>> How about always showing the tab but disabling anything that applies to
>> direct connect if the account is not mapped? This would be a huge help
>> with my brokerage accounts which always get the number of CDs I purchase
>> wrong (x100).
> It's not that easy, as the online tab is dynamically added when a mapping exists
> and differs completely between the OFX and HBCI version. See attached how this
> looks for the KBanking backend supporting HBCI available in Germany only.
>
>>>>>>>> If I save the OFX file and then import it in KMM, I do get the import summary window. This changed in the past few months.
>>>>>>> That means the File/Import feature, right?
>>>>>> Yes. I saved and imported an OFX, QFX and CSV file. In all 3 cases I get
>>>>>> the summary.
>>>>> Ok, so we (most likely I) need to figure out, why the summary does not
>>>>> get shown when the data is imported using web-connect. All other means,
>>>>> import via OFX, CSV, QIF and even the HBCI online banking (which I use)
>>>>> show the summary.
>>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure this was working fairly recently (months ago).
>>> This should now be fixed in git (master and 5.2).
>>>
>> I can confirm the summary appears in both 5.2 and the master branch. WE
>> did a good job fixing that!
> Yes, agree. Thanks for your support on this.
>
>> Before compiling KKM, I checked Fedora 42 and it seems that libalkimia
>> is up to date:
>>
>> libalkimia-qt5.i686   8.1.2-3.fc42 fedora
>> libalkimia-qt5.x86_64 8.1.2-3.fc42 fedora
>>
>> I uninstalled my self compiled versions and installed libalkimia and the
>> development packages from the Fedora respos. KMM failed to build and
>> reported that it could not find libalkimia 8.2.1. I removed the Fedora
>> versions and recompiled and installed libalkimia from source. Not sure
>> what is going on but I thought I would pass that on.
> The latest stable version is 8.2 which might not have yet made it to
> some distros.
>
> Thomas
>
Thinking about this some more I wonder if the account tabs could 
reorganized to make all importing easier some time in the future. I 
think I have a wishlist item that asks for some improvements to 
streamline CSV imports once they are setup for an account. Part of this 
might involve a csv import tab. I could imagine saving all of the 
settings I use each time I import a csv file to an account so that I 
don't have to go through every step every time I import the csv file. In 
my view, ideally that tab would save what you are importing (Banking, 
Investment...), select a profile, tell it to skip setup and in a perfect 
world, allow you to provide a path and file name for the csv file. Then 
I could simply save the csv file that I get from the bank and run 
"Update account" (like I used to do for Direct Connect). In a truly 
perfect world, "Update all accounts..." would also work and import every 
csv file you have saved in the account settings. Maybe Update All Local 
CSV Accounts...

A similar mechanism could be used for OFX files. Include the settings 
that are only available for mapped ofx accounts now and add a path and 
file name for the OFX file. I could then download a bunch of OFX files 
and run "Update all accounts..." or maybe "Update All Local OFX accounts..."

Basically allow accounts to be mapped locally since, at least as far as 
I know in the US, most banks don't provide direct connect access anymore.

Maybe add Map Local OFX Account and Map Local CSV Account.

While I expect most of this won't happen any time soon, I thought it 
made sense to mention it in case it affects how you might do some small 
changes now that will not complicate bigger changes later.

-- 
Brendan