communication re: 4.8.1

[Jack]

On 2017.09.28 18:20, Ralf Habacker wrote:
> Am 28.09.2017 um 23:37 schrieb Ralf Habacker:
> > Am 28.09.2017 um 23:22 schrieb Jack:
> >> I see that version 4.8.1 has been released. 
> Not complete, only the windows part of the files has been uploaded,  
> the unix tar ball is still missing.
I think it would have been better to do a complete release at once, or  
at least an appropriate announcement, to avoid confusion.  I also  
thought there was only one source tarball.  I don't see too much point  
in releasing a windows specific tarball, since almost nobody will  
compile for himself on Windows.  (I have spent a lot of time trying  
over the past years, and never had success.)  I hope the only  
additional files in the windows source compared to linux are related to  
the relase process itself, and are not actually necessary for compiling.

> Bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385167 showed me the subtile  
> differences between Windows and Linux releases: The Windows release  
> does not contain any translated documentation because it uses the  
> documentation provided by KDE online. Currently there are not all  
> translations ready (for example the german translation at  
> https://docs.kde.org/stable4/de/extragear-office/kmymoney/index.html)  
> but it does not affect the binary release for Windows. Users will see  
> updated doc immediatly. In the opposite the incomplete translated  
> documentation blocks the src tarball on linux.
I would make a weak request that the Windows version includes the  
translations and help files, since the whole point of them is to have  
them available if you are not connected to the internet.  However,  
since I don't know the effort to actually get the windows copy to use  
them (I suppose it would also reaquire including a compiled version of  
khelpcenter, unless they were simply made local html files) I don't  
actually propose that change now.

>> An announcement to this list (preferably even before the release)  
>> would be appropriate.  A note on the home page might also be a good  
>> idea.
> Sure, but a quick check shows additional not up to date languages
> https://docs.kde.org/stable4/es/extragear-office/kmymoney/index.html,
> https://docs.kde.org/stable4/et/extragear-office/kmymoney/index.html,
> https://docs.kde.org/stable4/fr/extragear-office/kmymoney/index.html,
> https://docs.kde.org/stable4/pt_BR/extragear-office/kmymoney/index.html
> I leave it up to you to decide if we should upload the src tarball  
> with the recent state of translated documentation or if we should  
> wait some more time and delay the announcement. It may also help to  
> ping the related translation teams.
It's not up to me, but up to the development team as a whole.  Would it  
be worth releasing a 4.8.1-pre tarball, with the note that the only  
change from the expected final 4.8.1 would be translations, but no code  
changes?  If not, then checking with the translation teams would be a  
good idea.

>>> Final question - when did we start releasing files compressed with  
>>> 7zip, rather than gzip or xz?
> This is the source tarball for the Windows release as designed in the  
> windows release package script (see maintainer subdir in kmymoney  
> source), which is more applicable for Windows users.
That makes sense, but then I would have made it more clear that the  
source tarball is also specifically windows oriented.

Jack