[Kmymoney-devel] Two instances at once, was: Debugging plugins

[Chris]

Hi Jack

Thanks for the reply.

I suspect most developers work in a VM, under windows that means a slow 
machine and the cost of a license. So I wont be doing that. I could just 
develop in a kde linux platform but as I want to make specific changes to 
suit Aussie small businesses who mostly work on windows machines, that is 
not practical. I'd have to badger the developers to push in changes they may 
not consider appropriate for their vision of kmymoney. And then get Cristian 
to run his win build tool over it. Which I am sure he won't be happy with. I 
am not looking to take over kmm on windows but am seeking to fill a niche need.

In the meantime I'll develop on my main box using the symlink solution and 
run kmymoney for my own book keeping inside a linux VM. Which is the way I 
have done it for years. Its not really a great solution but it is a solution.

As for fixing the plugins the problems I am having seem to be either my 
setup or windows specific. If it is windows specific then someone needs to 
debug it on windows. It wouldnt surprise me if its specific to my machine. 
Getting to understand the system enough to get a sane build environment has 
meant many iterations of different builds and something may be (seriously) 
messed up.

I haven't seen frameworks. so I will look into that if its more cross 
platform than KDE is at the moment, then it could be a good thing. If not 
another reason for me to branch and then maybe fork.

To be honest if it wasn't for the fact KMyMoney was so good I would have 
given up and gone down the gnucash path.


Chris


On 31/03/2014 9:38 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 2014.03.29 18:53, Chris wrote:
> [snip....]
>> It would appear in KDE you need to pollute your application name space to 
>> debug a plugin which means you cannot simultaneously have a devel version 
>> and a release version running at the same time.
> Ah, you have run into one of my recurring rants.  I have never succeeded 
> (on Linux) to install two versions of KMyMoney at once - I think there are 
> more reasons for that than the one you discovered.  There have been 
> numerous suggestions, and some folks have said they have done it, but I 
> have still not managed.  I suspect you might do it with a chroot (which is 
> probably not even be available on Windows) but I suspect the best answer 
> is to use VirtualBox or some other virtual environment.
>
>> Ever thought of breaking KMymoney out of the dependency on KDE? It would 
>> have much wider appeal.
> I have certainly thought about this, but on Linux, you can install 
> KMyMoney with a relatively small portion of KDE to cover only the absolute 
> requirements.  I'm pretty sure we have folks on this list who run a 
> primarily Gnome system, but still use KMyMoney.  The minimal install is 
> perhaps a bit more difficult on Windows, but it is generally sufficient, 
> except for the relatively uncommon need to debug or desire to assist with 
> development.  There are some positive things to having a "home" like KDE, 
> which make separating less desirable for the expected gain in audience.  I 
> think there would be better use in making the Windows setup easier.  Also, 
> it might be worth exploring the impacts of the coming switch to Frameworks 
> - if it will make working on OS-X and Windows easier, it may be worth 
> accelerating, although I fear it may be as difficult and painful as the 
> switch from kde3 to kde4.
>
> Jack
>