Krita demo at Digital Domain London was a success.

Boudewijn Rempt boud at valdyas.org
Mon Aug 27 14:50:16 UTC 2012


On Monday 27 August 2012 Aug, Simon Legrand wrote:
> Hi there! I'm am so sorry for the delay! I was busy helping this cool guy (
> http://rd3d.com/dtools/) port his tools for Linux and I only have so much
> free time. :) again, sorry.

No problem! In the meantime, I've been working on getting the lut docker into git master and to get the errors ironed out. There still are quite a few errors, and some new ones, but there's been progress on the whole. Hampered a little by a commercial project to bring Krita to Windows 8 tablets, which took a lot of time.

This also contains all-new code to handle floating point images, which should be quite a bit faster and more full-features than the code that's currently used in the centos packages.

> It is still quite hard to get people adopting a tool they've never used
> before but for those in the company who are making the effort to launch
> Krita instead of Gimp or Photoshop and in some instances Nuke or Mari, the
> general consensus is that it's a great tool. The UI being so 'familiar' is
> a great sale for us.

Yay!

> Initially I've mostly had 'surface level' feedback as people are not
> pushing it to its limits yet. Mainly the UI seems to hang a little a behave
> a little erratically at times when using the wacom. It's really hard
> to pinpoint exactly what gives it this strange feeling. My opinion is that
> it comes from dialogs flicking open in the wrong initial position when you
> first open a palette for example.

Hm... Are most people using multi-monitor setups? That's a bit undertested atm.g
> 
> To replicate:
> 
> -Open Krita
> -Create any kind of project
> -now click any of the buttons on the top bar. ie: "edit brush settings" or
> "chose brush preset" or the color or gradients buttons.
> -You will notice that, the first time you click any of those, a 'ghost'
> window appears briefly (~0.2 second) and then the actual palette opens.
> This only occurs once. Afterwards everything is fine.
>
> It's not a big deal, but it is a little jarring and may be one of those
> things that give a subconscious 'impression' of instability.
>
> Also drag and drop may get a bit annoying with a wacom when selecting
> layers. It seems that layers get 'grabbed' quite quickly when you're simply
> trying to select it or activate it. Maybe a grab 'handle' to the right of
> the layer could help with this?
> 
> We have been getting crashes here and there as well, but the artists seem
> to have a hard time reporting things. instead they just move on with their
> task using something else. It's an age old problem so I'm going to try and
> see what I can do about that.
> 
> Also I think performance is really strange at work compared to my home
> machine. At high bit depths Krita seems to struggle on my work machine,
> however on my home machine it's a real pleasure to work with. I need to
> investigate.

I'll check these things. They are the tricky kind of last-mile, papercut style of things. Either hard to reproduce (the flicker thing) or hard to fix properly (the layerbox thing). If your home machine is *buntu and you compile krita from git master, then that probably explains the difference in performance.

> 
> I've also been getting a couple of small UI requests that have popped up a
> couple of times.
> 
> Tabs for different canvases instead of a whole new Krita UI from every
> image. I also have to say I totally agree with that. It makes working on 10
> different images or frames at the same time mush more manageable. Gimp and
> Photoshop seem to have implemented this and I have to say that it's quite
> great. My apologies if something like this is already being made or if it's
> already in krita but I have not found the option.

No, it's not there yet. We've been discussing a kind of documents docker that keeps several documents open and ready, with thumbnails in a nice list. Simple tabs should be easy enough to implement, but the idea is to have a docker that can show open documents, documents on disk or recent documents and maybe even save groups of documents as projects for easy re-opening. No work has been done.

> A 'navigator' window like Photoshop and gimp. That top right thumbnail with
> the zoom and the crop section. I know it seems a bit useless, but most
> people don't know the navigation shortcuts for Krita initially, so a little
> navigator would help a bit. It's one of those legacy habits
> that Photoshop has burnt in all of our feeble minds I guess. :)

We lost our overview docker when we ported Krita from 1.6 to 2.0 :-(. There's a wish for it, though: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303876. I really want to implement that -- or entice someone to implement it :-).
 
> Sorry for the messy email.

No problem!

> If you want clarification on any of this please
> let me know. Also, please know that none of this is really pressing. We are
> slowly picking it up and management is supporting the move. But it takes
> time. People are not 'dabbing' around over there, we're under some pretty
> tight deadlines and heavy pressure to do shots, so sometimes, even though
> we'd like too, we just can't afford to take the risk to use something that
> we are not 100% familiar with. However as time goes on, people start
> realising what Krita can offer to help, whether it is from me suggesting it
> to someone or the artists willingly opening it up during a few days of
> quite time, it's slowly catching on.

Yes, I really understand that :-). Thanks for your update!

> 
> Thank you again to everyone involved in Krita for this great project!
-- 
Boudewijn Rempt
http://www.valdyas.org, http://www.krita.org, http://www.boudewijnrempt.nl


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