Suggestions for a shortcut for Save Incremental Version

[David REVOY]

Hi,

I both like the 2 way to do save incremental :
The one Dmitry expose on the mail under is also a good method with 
advantages ;
The name of the final file don't change till the end of project. This 
can help for inclusion , or relative link with another program or in a 
multi-software workflow .For exemple I experienced an awesome test with 
the 2 'reload' option between Krita and Mypaint , working on the same 
file is a pleasure. On a project like Sintel, it can help also help 
workers to keep a GIT or SVN versionning of the file.

What I propose is in regards of this choice  is to keep the 2 systems ;

1. Option 'Save Incremental' as Pentalis already did ( I couldn't test 
but it looks and sound good from what's written, I like the way it use 
0~9 or a~z depending the filename ; smart ! )
For the shortcut ; maybe Ctrl+Alt+S  ( in PS , this one is for "save for 
web" ) ; but I know because of Ubuntu usage of 'Alt' this last keystroke 
became taboo in many apps. ( not for Blender or Gimp ) . btw, the F2 of 
the 'save as scrap' of Mypaint is also cool because it's a single key to 
press.
This option can be really good working on Storyboard too, thumbnail 
sketching and sketch in general.
For this option , I like the naming foo_001.kra.

2. For the other method Dmitry posted , a preference option ( as a 
checkbox in the preference menu ) to make the behavior of the normal 
'Save'  keep older versions and rename ( what Blender do also ) ; with a 
number box to change ( ex: keep 4 last versions / 8 last version or 
all~infinite version ). This option is more designed for artist who want 
to avoid overwritting errors on a single painting files ; or keep 
historical . I can make easier also the creation of a WIP.
For this option , I like the naming foo~001.kra.

I hope with the ~ and _  ; collision between files will not happen 
between the 2 system, if you think the design of a system like this is 
good.
( ex : the first 'save' over a the second page of a storyboard : 
foo_002~001.kra )

- David
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On 17/06/11 21:21, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
> Btw, some programs use a reverse way of dealing with revisions. They 
> rotate the existent files, so the newest version of the file is always 
> non-postfixed.
>
> Example:
>
> Before:
> file.kra      # 05.01.11
> file~1.kra  # 04.01.11
> file~2.kra  # 03.01.11
>
> After:
> file.kra      # 06.01.11
> file~1.kra  # 05.01.11
> file~2.kra  # 04.01.11
> file~3.kra  # 03.01.11
>
> That is just an idea. No insisting on it. I'm not sure about the pros 
> and cons.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:07 PM, JL VT <pentalis at gmail.com 
> <mailto:pentalis at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I recently added a new feature to Krita, reachable at the Save
>     Incremental Version entry in the File menu.
>
>     Operation:
>     --When clicked, a file called foo.bar is saved as foo_001.bar.
>     --If the file was already called foo_001.bar, it is saved as
>     foo_002.bar, and so on.
>     --If a file with the new name already exists, a letter is added to the
>     incremental version, for example, foo_001a.bar. Incrementations
>     preserve this letter, for example the next save incremental will save
>     it as foo_002b.bar.
>     --If the user manually used an incremental version scheme between 2
>     and 4 numbers, for example foo_01.bar or foo_1029.bar, it will be
>     respected, saving a foo_02.bar and foo_1030.bar file respectively.
>     --The command will never ask the user to confirm to save a file (it is
>     meant to save time), and by the principle of least surprise, it will
>     also never overwrite an already-existing file.
>     --If the algorithm reaches its end searching for alternative names
>     (exhausts options going all the way up to a "z" letter, as in
>     foo_009z.bar, it will show the user an error asking to save the file
>     manually with an adequate name).
>
>     The question I have is:
>
>     What would be a good default shortcut for this feature?,
>
>     since it's a feature meant to save time, it should have a default
>     shortcut. But I'm actually completely unfamiliar with the shortcuts we
>     use and I think artists have a better idea of what would be good.
>
>     I also CC'd Calligra-devel to inform them of the feature and hopefully
>     catch a couple suggestions (also, if there's interest to make Save
>     Incremental Version Calligra-wide, it's not hard to relocate).
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