Suggestions for a shortcut for Save Incremental Version
davidrevoy at gmail.com
Fri Jun 17 22:53:21 CEST 2011
I both like the 2 way to do save incremental :
The one Dmitry expose on the mail under is also a good method with
The name of the final file don't change till the end of project. This
can help for inclusion , or relative link with another program or in a
multi-software workflow .For exemple I experienced an awesome test with
the 2 'reload' option between Krita and Mypaint , working on the same
file is a pleasure. On a project like Sintel, it can help also help
workers to keep a GIT or SVN versionning of the file.
What I propose is in regards of this choice is to keep the 2 systems ;
1. Option 'Save Incremental' as Pentalis already did ( I couldn't test
but it looks and sound good from what's written, I like the way it use
0~9 or a~z depending the filename ; smart ! )
For the shortcut ; maybe Ctrl+Alt+S ( in PS , this one is for "save for
web" ) ; but I know because of Ubuntu usage of 'Alt' this last keystroke
became taboo in many apps. ( not for Blender or Gimp ) . btw, the F2 of
the 'save as scrap' of Mypaint is also cool because it's a single key to
This option can be really good working on Storyboard too, thumbnail
sketching and sketch in general.
For this option , I like the naming foo_001.kra.
2. For the other method Dmitry posted , a preference option ( as a
checkbox in the preference menu ) to make the behavior of the normal
'Save' keep older versions and rename ( what Blender do also ) ; with a
number box to change ( ex: keep 4 last versions / 8 last version or
all~infinite version ). This option is more designed for artist who want
to avoid overwritting errors on a single painting files ; or keep
historical . I can make easier also the creation of a WIP.
For this option , I like the naming foo~001.kra.
I hope with the ~ and _ ; collision between files will not happen
between the 2 system, if you think the design of a system like this is
( ex : the first 'save' over a the second page of a storyboard :
On 17/06/11 21:21, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
> Btw, some programs use a reverse way of dealing with revisions. They
> rotate the existent files, so the newest version of the file is always
> file.kra # 05.01.11
> file~1.kra # 04.01.11
> file~2.kra # 03.01.11
> file.kra # 06.01.11
> file~1.kra # 05.01.11
> file~2.kra # 04.01.11
> file~3.kra # 03.01.11
> That is just an idea. No insisting on it. I'm not sure about the pros
> and cons.
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:07 PM, JL VT <pentalis at gmail.com
> <mailto:pentalis at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I recently added a new feature to Krita, reachable at the Save
> Incremental Version entry in the File menu.
> --When clicked, a file called foo.bar is saved as foo_001.bar.
> --If the file was already called foo_001.bar, it is saved as
> foo_002.bar, and so on.
> --If a file with the new name already exists, a letter is added to the
> incremental version, for example, foo_001a.bar. Incrementations
> preserve this letter, for example the next save incremental will save
> it as foo_002b.bar.
> --If the user manually used an incremental version scheme between 2
> and 4 numbers, for example foo_01.bar or foo_1029.bar, it will be
> respected, saving a foo_02.bar and foo_1030.bar file respectively.
> --The command will never ask the user to confirm to save a file (it is
> meant to save time), and by the principle of least surprise, it will
> also never overwrite an already-existing file.
> --If the algorithm reaches its end searching for alternative names
> (exhausts options going all the way up to a "z" letter, as in
> foo_009z.bar, it will show the user an error asking to save the file
> manually with an adequate name).
> The question I have is:
> What would be a good default shortcut for this feature?,
> since it's a feature meant to save time, it should have a default
> shortcut. But I'm actually completely unfamiliar with the shortcuts we
> use and I think artists have a better idea of what would be good.
> I also CC'd Calligra-devel to inform them of the feature and hopefully
> catch a couple suggestions (also, if there's interest to make Save
> Incremental Version Calligra-wide, it's not hard to relocate).
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