Quick Sketch Palette : Need help

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Vera Lukman wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to make a widget for Krita that enables the user to easily access their favourite brushes. The user has to save/store their favourite brushes to 'Palette' first to make use of this widget by clicking 'modify palette' button. The question is: where should I put this button? I have come up with several ideas, and I would really appreciate it if anyone can tell me which is the best idea. Other ideas are welcomed as well (I am sure you can come up with better ideas than me). Please go to http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Krita/Quick_sketch_Pallete#Current_Concern.28s.29 to see my current ideas.
>
>   
Hello,

I am very interested by the Quick palette. But I'm a bit confused about 
how it works and what it does, especially for the "Modify Brush" dialog.

- Will the Quick Palette replace the Brush Preset combo box ?

- Will the Modify Brush dialog replace the Preset Selection tab of the 
Edit Brush Preset dialog ?

- Will it be used to manage(add, delete, sort) all presets, or only to 
choose which presets will go in the Quick Palette ?

- If it is used to manage presets, will these presets be bound to 
PaintOps, or mixed together in one list ?

> The full description of this widget can be found at http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Krita/Quick_sketch_Pallete
>
>
> Thank you for your help
> Vera
>   
After looking at your mock-ups, I must admit I have some doubt about the 
usability :/

I would recommend to use more standard widgets: Round buttons offer a 
limited surface compared to square buttons of the same size, this might 
be hard to use with a stylus. Also, lot of space could be gained if 
margins were smaller. The color palette is a good idea though.

I think you should look at how brush selectors are implemented in other 
raster editors. And maybe ask to several users what they'd like to see 
in it, how is their work-flow, etc..

Some examples :
- Concept-artists, roughman, digital painters : They tend to use a lot 
of complex brushes presets to gain time. Brush for creating textures, 
complex patterns or organic matter like leafs or grass, but also use 
simple brushes like the AutoBrush.
- Old-school Painter & Photoshop users, and most mouse users 
(Web-designer, DTP artists ?) : They use a limited set of simple 
brushes, but often create severals variant of size for each brushes. So 
if, for example, they use only 5 brushes and 5 variants per brush, they 
need 25 presets.
For these cases, the 5 presets limitation is too limiting. I think it 
would be better to let the user choose how many presets are visible.
Photoshop's brush selector is especially simple and efficient for that : 
All the presets are in one list. The user resizes the dialog to set how 
many presets he wants. If others brushes are needed, he doesn't need to 
go in the brush manager, but just use the scrollbar to navigate.

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