Confirmation for deletion of files in Dolphin settings also affects Gwenview

Aurélien Gâteau agateau at kde.org
Mon Jun 17 15:12:31 BST 2013


On Friday 14 June 2013 18:38:18 you wrote:
> > > (b) Restore the possibility to configure the confirmations in
> > > Gwenview's settings dialog.
> > 
> > My memory may be tricking me, but I don't it has ever been possible to
> > configure confirmation of file operations in Gwenview.
> 
> It was possible in gwenview in kde 3, see screenshot from gwenview 1.42
> running in a VM with 3.11 trinity here http://postimg.org/image/4qpwyu0sr/

Oh right. I thought you were referring to some early KDE4 version. Indeed KDE3 
version of Gwenview had these options.

> > I would personally
> > prefer a way to split the settings so that they are not shared anymore. I
> > believe this is what users expect.
> 
> I disagree here, let me explain why:
> 
> The two confirmation options mentioned by Frank effect file operations in
> Gwenview, Konqueror, Dolphin, Kmail(!) and in many kde applications via the
> File dialog.

Just like Frank, I was not aware those settings were used by so many 
applications. Thanks for pointing it out.
> 
> Imagine you have a separate option in gwenview, but this option is different
> in the file dialog (using the global confirmation setting) launched from
> Gwenview via Load/Save from the File menu. Would our users really expect
> that? I seriously doubt it.
> 
> Furthermore these are basic file management options used widely in kde apps
> as mentioned above, so I think our users expect them to be global settings.
> 
> And if a user in kde4 somehow learned / recognized by experience that these
> confirmation options are global this might lead to data loss just the other
> way round.
> 
> Franks solution with a warning in Dolphin's/Konqueror's settings dialog
> seems to be only a short term solution.
> 
> A global option should be changeable only in our general control utility in
> systemsettings or in a kcm dialog outside the application window. That would
> make automatically clear, that the user is changing a global option, no
> warning needed.
> 
> Digging around for similar problems (changing options in an application
> settings dialog, which are global, but this might probably be not always
> that obvious for users) I found a way rekonq handles such an issue
> regarding proxy settings, which could be adapted and used here like:
> 
> Show the current status of these global confirmation options in
> Dolphins/Konquerors settings dialog, but don't allow to edit them directly.
> Instead provide a button labeled "Change Option" or similar which opens a
> separate kcm dialog which is also available in the systemsettings.

This makes sense to me and would indeed solve the problem. This can't happen 
for 4.11, though. Who is going to implement this KCM for 4.12?

Aurélien




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