Split View in dolphin usability issue

[Todd]

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Frank Reininghaus
<frank78ac at googlemail.com>wrote:

>
> 2013/1/9 Todd:
> > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Daniel Kreuter>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Am 09.01.2013 10:40 schrieb "Mark":
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Jekyll Wu wrote:
> >> > > On 2013年01月07日 20:21, Frank Reininghaus wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I understand that one might often want to keep the active view,
> >> > >> rather
> >> > >> than the other one. However, a quick Bugzilla search did not yield
> >> > >> any
> >> > >> indication that the current behaviour is a problem for many users.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Just for the record, there was such a report[1], but it was
> closed[2]
> >> > > as
> >> > > WONTFIX by Peter.
> >> > >
> >> > > I myself also would like to keep the active view, and even made a
> >> > > stupid
> >> > > patch to do it that way sometime ago. But perhaps Peter is right.
> >> > >
> >> > > This should really be carefully considered and discussed. Make a
> poll?
> >> > > Write
> >> > > a article on planet KDE to collect opinions ?
> >> > >
> >> > > [1] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188474
> >> > > [2] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188474#c4
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > > Jekyll
> >> >
> >> > In my opinion it is logical to expect the url of your active view to
> >> > become the url for your single window when you close split view. The
> >> > fact that there aren't many/any duplicates/votes is likely due to the
> >> > fact that split view isn't the default and is not used "a lot". People
> >> > that are using it probably like the split view and hardly close it
> >> > anyway thus only very rarely experience this issue. Another reason is
> >> > that the issue is really minor in terms of usability so users are just
> >> > not likely to take the step and report it.
> >> >
> >> > just my 5 cents.
> >>
> >> I often use the split view temporarily f.e. to copy/move files from one
> >> folder to another. When i'm finishend i return to the single view and
> always
> >> the wrong view stays open.
> >>
> >> I created a wish in bko two days ago (
> >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312834) and there are already 60
> votes
> >> so i will start working on it as soon as my build environment is set up.
> >>
> >> So long
> >
> >
> > This is also my most common use-case and this problem constantly trips me
> > up.
> >
> > The reason I never submitted a bug report is because developers generally
> > seem resistant to changing these sorts of semi-arbitrary choices out of
> fear
> > of upsetting users who have grown accustomed to the current behavior
>
> It might be hard to believe for non-maintainers, but that fear is
> actually justified. In my experience, many behaviour changes, no
> matter how stupid the old behaviour was, cause many angry reactions,
> which end up in the *maintainer's* inbox. The recent discussions about
> dropping automatic icon resizing in the places panel and about "Sort
> by Date" not sorting hidden files separately since Dolphin 2.0 come to
> my mind.
>
>
I am not claiming it isn't justified.  But if such changes are routinely
rejected, people may be less likely to report them, so you can't really say
the lack of reports indicates a lack of interest.  Especially when there is
already a bug report closed as "wontfix".
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