Bug 163311

[James Richard Tyrer]

Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Friday 13 June 2008, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
>> So, the result now is that if you run KDE3 applications on KDE4 that you
>> are missing a lot of icons.

If our leader tells us that black is white and most of us believe him, 
then as far as we are concerned, black is white but the ontology remains 
the same.

> .. in the application launcher menu, not the applications themselves. the 
> solution is to get these kde3 applications in line with the standard which 
> says that non-generic application logo icons should go into the hi-color 
> space.

That is not what the current release 0.11 says.  It is AJS that is 
saying that.  But, if KDE accepts the word of our leader than that is 
what is true.  Actually, you have projected what you think (i.e. no 
HiColor theme icons allowed) onto what the icon naming standard actually 
says and corrupted the meaning to match what it says.  Perhaps you do 
not actually understand what it says.

> with kde4 apps, we are installing the app icons into hi-color along with our 
> mimetype icons.

This is a kludge.  It works for some cases, but will it work for all 
cases.  I don't think so.  What happens if you are using both GNOME and 
KDE apps and both GNOME and KDE are set to the same icon theme -- that 
is, after all, the final outcome of having standard icon names isn't it?

> so kde4 apps are doing the Right Thing(tm) and this is supported by the build 
> system.
> 
KDE4 apps are doing the wrong thin.  What is needed is to add to/change 
the icon naming spec so that KDE can install a single icon them and not 
need to install non-HiColor icons in HiColor.

Note that what the icon naming spec says is that if an app doesn't have 
neutral (much better term than unthemed) icons (e.g. HiColor icons) that 
it should install whatever icons it has in the HiColor them.  What that 
means is clear.  If an app has Oxygen icons and no HiColor style icons 
that it should install ALL of its icons in HiColor.

This makes a certain amount of sense since it will work in all cases, 
but it is not the best solution.  The best solution probably still 
hasn't been found yet, but we do need to search for it.  Otherwise, we 
need to install all of the default theme icons as HiColor because those 
are the only icons we have (that is what the standard says).  What the 
best solution would be is a method that has the same effect but allows 
us to install all of the Oxygen icons as Oxygen even if there are no 
HiColor icons.

-- 
JRT