Konqueror 4 webbrowsing UI

[Lubos Lunak]

Dne pondělí 28 listopad 2005 18:37 Aaron J. Seigo napsal(a):
> On Friday 25 November 2005 15:17, Lubos Lunak wrote:
> > Dne pátek 25 listopad 2005 07:01 Aaron J. Seigo napsal(a):
> > > i'm so tempted to just get rid of them.
> >
> >  You'll have to pry it from my dead cold hands.
>
> my favourite response to this hackneyed Heston-ism: "that could be
> arranged."

 Swords, pistols :) ?

> >  Or have a good reason for
> > dropping it, that should be about as difficult.
>
> a) they are non-standard and therefore don't work with all apps creating an
> inconsistent environment

 Yes, too bad it doesn't work with xterm, xmms, ImageMagick and xv here. Hmm, 
wait, they don't have a standard menubar anyway. Let me think if I run some 
other non-KDE apps.

> b) they employ a non-standard hack to work in the first place

 Just like about half of all things in KDE. Not that it would be impossible to 
create something more standard for it, if somebody cared.

> c) they are of dubious value from a usability perspective

 They why do (not only) I like to use them?

> d) it's yet more code to support that does something of questionable value.

 But it has at least somebody (=me) to do the support (as already said feel 
free to reassign its problems to me). We have even more silly features 
without anybody taking care of them and we keep them.

> the solution may be to move the menubar applet to extragear so that it
> isn't in a place where it can be confused as an integral and well-oiled
> part of KDE.

 Extragear? It needs code in kdelibs to work anyway. But I think I wouldn't 
mind it being moved out of kdebase.

> > > they are such a friggin' hack, so buggy, many apps don't work with it
> > > ... i tire with the problems it brings
> >
> >  I'm not aware of any serious problems with it, but if there are any
> > bugreports for it, feel free to reassign them to me. Of course, unless
> > the real problem is it breaks Kicker's hacks.
>
> true, the primary source of bugs was the poor implementation that was
> dumped into kicker. and yes, it doesn't work well with many of kicker's
> "features" (leading me to do things like actually disable theming
> altogether on the menubar).
>
> i also agree that you and i have different tollerances for certain
> problems. for me, having a global menubar that only works with some apps
> and not others is a problem. to me, that makes it a joke. to you, that's
> ok.

 *shrug* If it works in 99% of cases for me, that's still 99% more than if it 
doesn't work at all.

-- 
Lubos Lunak
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