VisualID SigGraph2004 paper

Holger Waechtler holger at qanu.de
Sun Jul 11 10:46:54 BST 2004


Roger Larsson wrote:
> On Saturday 10 July 2004 21.30, Holger Waechtler wrote:
> 
>>Roger Larsson wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday 10 July 2004 11.53, Holger Waechtler wrote:
>>>
>>>>Roger Larsson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Using "Huge" icon size together with "folder icons reflects content"
>>>>>gives a nice visual aid for many files.
>>>>
>>>>yes, but for backup copies and derived projects with very similiar
>>>>content the "similiar content versus similiar filename" issue from the
>>>>paper discussion arises again. Maybe a combined icon made from
>>>>thumbnail, visualID and the folder logo would be best.
>>>
>>>I think you should select thumbnail or visualID with mime icon blended
>>>in. (probably minimal)
>>>
>>>Why?
>>>  Images, video, web pages (html and war), pdf, works well as thumbnail.
>>
>>only if you don't talk about about different only slightly modified
>>versions of a file like it is the case for backup-copies (CAD and EDA
>>tools safe up to 10 automatically generated backup copies with almost
>>the same name in the directory).
>>
>>The shape grammars would make all the backup copy IDs looking similiar
>>in shape to the original but clearly distinguishable since their file
>>names have all the same type of ending like e.g. ".$$1"...".$$9" or
>>".b01"...".b09" versus the original file suffix.
> 
> 
> That is good in theory but in practice they might differ alot...
> I searched for source and found:
>  http://www.idiom.com/~zilla/Work/VisualIDs/visualids_supplementary.zip
> Take a look in visualids_supplementary/Experiment34/Icons
> 
> Compare icons for FINAL.tex and FINAL.tex~
> I would also guess that all *$1.* also are backup files - they are
> even more different...

hmmm... the Experiment1/Experiment34/Experiment56 icons on figure 1 on 
the paper front page are probably a better example...
:)

After all that's an issue of the used shape generation algorithms, they 
can for sure get much improved...

> What is worse is that a lot of the icons ends up as big black blobs...

(maybe another issue of the used shape grammars;)
Colorized doodles may help... or different shape generation algorithms, 
at the end it's mostly a matter of the used "theme", the selected shape 
generator.

:) and then... this is just a scientific paper outlining the concept, 
it's by no means a production quality implementation.

best Regards,
have a relaxed sunday,

Holger



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