[PATCH] support selecting xmlui file in konqy profile

George Staikos staikos at kde.org
Mon Jan 5 23:13:52 GMT 2004


On Monday 05 January 2004 17:48, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday 05 January 2004 03:25, George Staikos wrote:
> >    The Go button, yes, the Clear button, definitely not.  It's
> > infuriating to use a browser that doesn't have that now.  Especially in
> > X11 where the next easiest thing is doubleclicking to select all and
> > overwrite, which sets the selection.  Promoting that behaviour is bad.
>
> hrm... Ok, i can understand the desire for the clear button. i'm a little
> on-the-fence on that one myself, but the Go button can definitely go =)
>
> > Removing the
> > security button is a huge mistake from a security perspective and I
> > cannot support that either.
>
> which is why it's in the status bar. no matter how much anyone would wish
> otherwise, having it in the toolbar as well as in the status bar is useless
> and redundant: nobody uses it, nobody cares about it (where "nobody" is
> shorthand for "99.9% of users yesterday, today and tomorrow")

   Very wrong.  I was amazed over the holidays to experience first hand some 
completely non-technical windows users actually go into the IE security 
information to check who signed the certificate.  Why do we need it in the 
toolbar too?  1) (reason that matters more than others)  It has always been 
there, and moving it causes very much confusion.  Do you know how many people 
complained that we didn't have it in the same place as Netscape?  I even 
remember bug reports that KDE has no security for HTTPS because they didn't 
see it in the bottom left corner.  2) Split views.  The icon disappears and 
reappears as views are activated and deactivated, and that's not good.  At 
least with the toolbar icon it's always there when KHTML is loaded and shows 
you the state of it along with other state icons.

   Now that I look at it more closely, I don't agree with any of the GUI 
changes, except perhaps the Go button (since it can easily be re-added for 
Kiosk-style operation).  It just adds more clicks to do things and hides 
common actions.  If you want a featureless system, wait for 3.3 and add a KCM 
or wizard that installs alternative rc files with actions removed.  You can 
even make it part of KPersonalizer: "Do you want fewer features? Y/N"  
Removing features and making it hard to do things is what Gnome does, not 
what KDE does, and IMHO it's really dumb.

   Note: I regularly use Safari too, and I find it really annoying that it 
doesn't have some of the basic features of an application easily accessible.

-- 
George Staikos
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