Konqueror delete unification

[David Hugh-Jones]

Hi Mike,

Well, like I said, we had a long usability discussion and then I wrote
the patch! So, if you want something different, you are going to have to
write a different one. 

That said, I am not sure I am convinced by your arguments. 

(1) I know there are many users who like the ability to store files in
the trash, or decide not to. With this patch, you can still do that. It
just is a keyboard shortcut not a RMB action. 
 
(2) I don't think it is going to be possible to "intelligently" decide
when to issue this "file too big" warning. It depends too much on
different user preferences, box configurations etc.

Dave

On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 16:22, Michael S. Mikowski wrote:
> Hi Dave, et. al.
> 
> This is an interesting discussion.  From a user perspective, here are a few 
> thoughts.  I hope you find them useful.
> 
> After this very thorough review, and a review of my own habits (on KDE 3.1), I 
> believe the distinction between "Move to Trash" and "Delete" is very 
> important and should be maintained.  I simply needs both capabilities, and a 
> "streamlined" interface could only make it simply more clumsy and confusing.
> 
> That being said, a few of the dialogs might be improved.
> 
> Here is a thought for the "Delete File" confirmation dialog
> 
> =======================================================
> |              Delete File - Konqueror            | x |
> =======================================================
> | WARNING! /home/fred/plaster.pdf                     |
> | will be removed from the disk and may never be      |
> | recovered.  If you think you might need this file   |
> | in the future, you may use Move to Trash instead.   |
> | Do you still wish to proceed?                       |
> |                                                     |
> |     Yes     Move to Trash Instead     Cancel        |
> =======================================================
> 
> Also, when the user clicks the trash button, I think the behavior should 
> *always* be to move a file to the trash.  Whenever the system "thinks" an 
> exception to this rule is desirable, a warning dialog or further action 
> dialog might appear:
> 
> ========================================================
> |              Move to Trash - Konqueror           | x |
> ========================================================
> | WARNING! ftp://path/to/my/remote/file                |
> | is a remote file!  Moving it to the trash might take |
> | a long time.  Do you still wish to proceed?          |                                          
> |                                                      |
> |       Yes     Delete Instead     Cancel              |
> ========================================================
> 
> I *don't* like the idea of discriminating if a local file is on this or that 
> partition.  It really isn't much a concern for me.  I *do* like the idea of 
> employing a file size limit prior to moving a file to trash -- e.g. "Warn me 
> when moving large files to trash  __ MB"  A 'sane' default limit, like 25MB, 
> might be used.
> 
> ========================================================
> |              Move to Trash - Konqueror           | x |
> ========================================================
> | WARNING! /home/share/really_big_fat_file.iso         |
> | exceeds 25MB.  Moving it to the trash could take a   |
> | a long time and consume a large amount of disk space.|
> | Do you still wish to proceed?                        |                                                      
> |                                                      |
> |       Yes     Delete Instead     Cancel              |
> ========================================================
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mike
> 
> On Monday 14 July 2003 10:39, David Hugh-Jones wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 15:25, Koos Vriezen wrote:
> > > Well don't do that then! My point is not copying at all, only a mv in the
> > > same partition, nothing intelligent about that (large file was just an
> > > example how annoying it can be if it's copied, compiled/installed source
> > > packages can be even more annoying if you forget about force delete).
> > >
> > > Koos
> >
> > You've lost me. I thought we were discussing how to decide whether to
> > delete or trash files? Tell me what you are proposing, your ideal system
> > for what happens when a user hits "delete" on a file.
> >
> > Dave